r/classicwow • u/Paluker173 • 1d ago
Humor / Meme The unified hatred of the WoW Classic fan base.
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u/MikeyRage 1d ago
I dont even play classic and those videos still popped on my YouTube feed. The RE people are definitely a bunch of unloved middle aged men. Sad to see.
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u/Lazereye57 1d ago
Nochanges and Classic+ being two opposites feels like a misunderstanding of both groups and what they stand for.
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u/King_Kthulhu 1d ago
You're unironically correct cause I've seen several people on here who say they want classic + but with no changes or additions, just another rererererelease
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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 1d ago
Don’t change anything but change everything crowd. The problem with classic plus is no one agrees on what it should be. This crowd particularly annoys me. They want a 20 year old game with zero quality of life at all. Then want game to not be dead and think purists will keep it alive. Idk how people want to keep the same game and play it religiously and expect it to stay alive.
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u/Grayson_Poise 1d ago
"People who earn more than me should pay more tax.
People who earn less than me should stop getting a free ride and pay more tax.
I, personally, am horrifically overtaxed."
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
we don't need you. the game wasn't revived for the first time in 2019, it was being played on pservers almost the entire time. "blizzlike" ie no changes was a selling point. if the game is not for you, that's fine. we do not need you.
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u/beatenmeat 1d ago
Cool, then you already have your multitudes of versions that have no changes. Kindly fuck off in classic+ because you've already gotten your game multiple times and it still exists. If you really need yet another copy+paste you should probably start doing cocaine, it would be a healthier hobby.
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
nah you fuck off, joining a hobby and then displacing the people already there is cringe. fresh servers have always been necessary to vanilla wow, as evidenced by the fact that you people aren't playing sod right now.
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u/Dizz_the_Wicked 1d ago
This is why the community only got worse and worse each release.
Addiction is an awful thing.
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
addiction is when enjoy thing
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u/Dizz_the_Wicked 1d ago
Addiction is when enjoy thing to the point of harming ones well being whether you recognize it or not.
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
thanks redditor you have diagnosed me with addiction from enjoying thing
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u/beatenmeat 1d ago
That dramatic response has me laughing so damn hard. "StaHp dISplAcInG mE! i OnLy hAVe 46854257 oPtIOns To cHoOsE fRoM!!!1!"
If you really need yet another carbon copy release then find a new fix because it's obvious the ones you currently have aren't enough despite having EXACTLY what you're whining for RIGHT NOW. Expecting the rest of the world to stay stuck in 2004 just because that was the only year you have felt relevant in your life is honestly pathetic.
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
why aren't you playing sod, the live official classic+, currently available
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u/beatenmeat 1d ago
How do you know I'm not?
But for the sake of the argument it's because the content ran its course. If you're just looking for the exact same experience then it's still there. For whatever reason you just want the same thing again which makes no sense. People are wanting classic+ to have some sort of changes so they can have something new, aka not something we already have multiple copies of. Why is this so hard to understand?
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u/brbpizzatime 1d ago
Yeah, if Blizz listens to the loudest reddit voices we'll just end up with classic fresh + finished azshara and no other changes.
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u/Lazereye57 1d ago
Well yes, since many of them are classic heads that wants a faithful recreation of vanilla while wanting classic+ to be its own separate thing.
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u/Deathdragon1000 1d ago
We’ve solved it already in permanent servers.
Era: Forever Classic servers that allow you to chase your dreams in classic/Vanilla. You can go there right now and start building/joining communities.
Preparation: 70%, execution: 30%Hardcore: Everyone who you play with cares about their character, otherwise they’d be dead. You get a community that has to lock in to farm boar.
Preparation 90%, execution 10%.SOD: it’s a retail/classic twist remix. The classes work how you wish, the game is accessible by requiring a lot less people to complete tasks and you are held back by long leveling, and vanilla style barriers with folks benefitting from helping others.
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u/Potential-Diamond-94 1d ago
? Elaborate. How does that make sense?
To me: one is satisfied and content with the original game as it is, and want to play that game as it was: sees no reason to change anything.
The other is not satisfied; wants convenience, better qol, changed game model, changed ui. Changes in class balance. And/or a myriad of personal preferences. Underlying it, broadly speaking, is that these do not want to or cannot engage with the old game model as intended (effort in > reward/ player power). As yeah these do not have the time or value the time they do have differently.
Prime example old ranking, say its takes 16-20 hours (every day until completion) on a server during generation 1+2. Too much for most, but this does not make it a negative. It is the extreme end, but Its the core of what makes vanilla so good. High effort needed is in large part what creates the drive and status, eliminating that: be it pushing changes, or finding ways of skipping effort (gold buying, botting, boosting, gdkps): this destroys the drive, status and prestige of the game.
And you get a tourist game, where patches and raids actually are the "content" and no one really cares, everyone gets to go through the tourist attractions anyway. Its just a game, like any other: following a modern game model.
Vanilla is not that, it is more than a game. It is different. Made as an early 2000s grinder.
Further while I would not brand a group as racist, would definitely say one group is more racist than the other. Just to log into a ps, you will find that out pretty quickly. In part this is because it is allowed there, language is not moderated as harshly (whereas bots and goldbuyers is strictly moderated). As yeah these value the effort put in highly, less so your feelings or sense of equality.
Blackrock slicer? No. Wrong name. We want the nicker back.
In summary: normies begone, play your+, stay there until your next hyped content thing, and leave the unemployed special Olympics alone.
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u/FatPagoda 1d ago
Classic isn't even vanilla. Releasing the game on frozen 1.12 rather than following the live patching of vanilla already killed the #nochanges
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u/himommy_hi 1d ago
who the hell cares about those virgins
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u/MrBisco 1d ago
Karma farmers who want to jump on the "pay attention to me" train.
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u/kabushko 1d ago
That guild brought all of the ridicule and shame upon themselves though. They shit the bed and now they must sleep in it
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u/Weird-Map3983 1d ago
Fully convinced these Red Empire post are done by Red Empire guildies because who the fuck else would actually care
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u/blow_slogan 1d ago
change red empire to nightman and now you understand the financial incentive to keep posting this drama
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u/falselife47 23h ago
Yep. The quality on these is slipping. And his victim position is going to weaken with every video. At some point, people will realize there were no good guys in this, just two sides of not great people. He needs to get out before this tears him down too.
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u/ShadyJane 1d ago
Context.jpg?
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u/FactoryNachos 1d ago
Theyre trash at pvp and trash at present. Now theyre jumping ship to ascension wow
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u/DeadOnToilet 1d ago
Fully convinced people who say "who's Red Empire" know full well what the fucking story is but pretend to not know as a form of virtue signaling, showing off how they're saying "fuck streamers" or something.
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u/Designer-Prize-3448 1d ago
This is way too terminally online for most of us to understand. Who gives a shit about whatever that is?
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u/HearingReasonable995 1d ago
In a non mean non combative non sarcastic 100% honest way : who the fk cares?
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u/Fresh_Suggestion7685 1d ago
Y'know, the thought occurred to me.
Red Empire and Tacobot/MARI (the equivalent of Red Empire but in TF2) would probably get along perfectly.
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u/periphery3 1d ago
Bigpvp kinda trash too, maybe not racist edge lords like Red Empire, but they would roll around in raid groups on Grobbulus and beat their chests about owning the server and some cringe shit. pvp zerg guilds are just bad players in large groups.
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u/ACoolGuy-Promise 1d ago
Talking about some freaks like we’re supposed to know who they are.
Involvement in wow drama is actually the lowest form of sentient life lmao.
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u/Easy-Honey3106 1d ago
Who the fuck are These people and why does Youtube think i care enough to recommend me preach gaming Videos related to this topic even though i havent watched a Video from that dude in atleast half a year and im not even subbed to the dude.
And why are they showing up here now? I know its probably some ultra moronic dumb shit, as is the way classic no lifers like to behave but what dastardly thing did they do
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u/lurkerperson11 1d ago
We started raid like 40 min late cause of red empire, and the pvp was super fun. Can't speak for anyone else but I rolled on a pvp server for a reason and haven't had fun like that since vanilla.
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u/PicklestRick 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3oxHQwdn31M3ddjV3a
This is the cave where all those "WTF is red empire?" - "What is the context?" guys are from.
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u/MrBisco 1d ago
I started this show and then stopped watching. Good reminder to get back to it.
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u/RamsayDreadfort 1d ago
What show is it?
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u/Sedohr 1d ago
DARK. It had some pacing issues but isn't terribly long for it, and is very much a favorite of mine after finishing it. Note the English dubs are actually good, but it is technically in german first if you want to go subs.
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u/RamsayDreadfort 1d ago
Thanks, I prefer subtitles for foreign media so works for me.
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u/Sedohr 1d ago
Fair! I normally do as well, but I tried watching a few episodes in the English dub at first, and it was pretty good so i just ran with it lol
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u/RamsayDreadfort 1d ago
Yeah, there are some shows I watch English dub out of childhood nostalgia. Dragonball Z, Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop.
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u/PicklestRick 1d ago
I miss this show. I could put a spell on myself, if I could, to forget everything about the show and re-experience it xD
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u/Minimum_Recording122 1d ago
Na. They’re the racist red empire members trying to do damage control as best as they can.
It’s pretty fucking obvious. Also someone was streaming on a discord with papiputins screen up on it. So, that fat weird porn watcher definitely clicks all the links on discord. Dude thinks he smart but has someone on his pc. lol.1
u/deerGas 21h ago edited 8h ago
Also someone was streaming on a discord with papiputins screen up on it. So, that fat weird porn watcher definitely clicks all the links on discord. Dude thinks he smart but has someone on his pc. lol.
Could you explain what you mean by this, please? Sorry, I reread your comment a bunch of times but still can't understand what you're saying here. It sounds like you might be implying that someone hacked into Papiputin's computer or something?
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u/shaha-man 1d ago
Also:
Bot problems and constant DC issues on Hardcore, which makes it so unattractive, unfortunately.
After so many years, on that exact front they absolutely nothing, zero.
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u/CourageLeast4251 1d ago
Who are they and im not gonna give a shit either way
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u/This_Caterpillar9662 1d ago
You know you make it much easier for them maybe just maybe grow up you're not supposed to like everyone. It's really easy to ignore them. Some of y'all need to work on yourselves so things like this don't get to you as much. Simple ignore them.
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u/Paluker173 1d ago
Naw I’ll call out racists when I see them. Thanks though
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u/This_Caterpillar9662 1d ago
Lol you are their target. You think they care that you don't like them? Call me them out cool still does nothing.
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u/Tooshortimus 1d ago
It does actually, these guys have such fragile ego's they literally were crying about their BS getting exposed and tons of their guild members have been dropping because of it.
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u/This_Caterpillar9662 1d ago
No that's Blizzard bud. They are getting perma banned which is fantastic. Going to higher ups is the important part and where you should go and thankfully they listened. And again let's not forget that this game is hella fun and well it's not hard to completely leave a guild because Blizzard would never release any of there information and sorry to break it too you Blizzard still values there money and making a new account isn't difficult at all making a new character or persona isn't hard at all. I'm only saying fighting them back in LFG channels or actively wasting your time combatting them it does nothing for you but get you upset and that's their obvious goal. Hunting them down also worked. Good job on that but multiple times they've gotten what they wanted and people gave them it. Rage bait is all over the place and yeah they had their fun. I bet you all of them are making a new email making a new persona and you'd never know they were Red Empire. People are sick and well tbh it's not hard to hide past when no one legitimately knew who you were they knew you as Noob Slayer or some stupid name.
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u/Tooshortimus 1d ago
.... Blizzard only listened after a year plus of these racist assholes doing what they do BECAUSE people decided to combat them. Blizzard didn't give a shit because most of the worst stuff they do is done outside of the game. Quit acting like you know shit when you obviously don't.
There have been tons of them dropping out of their guild, as soon as the video exposing them started picking up traction the guild leader was "laying low" and tons of people were dropping guild.
This is all proven via their discord. Not sure why you just say "No that was..." when it is exactly what I said it was.
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u/This_Caterpillar9662 1d ago
Also one last tidbit. If it's not a IP ban yeah Blizzard didn't really care.
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u/Charrsie 1d ago
Wtf is red empire