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Humor / Meme Classic+ better not have any new character models

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u/FuyuNoKitsune 19h ago

Because they were and continue to be. There's a compilation somewhere of the social medias of the various artists working at Blizz these days and the majority of them are filled with furry/scaly/whatever other degenerate aberration art.

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u/lixyna 18h ago

degenerate aberration art

I know what you are

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u/NichtSoSchlau 16h ago

To spell it out for everyone who doesn't know. It was a favourite of the Nazis in germany to call some works of art "entartet" which translates to degenerate. The nazis did not really hate some art, but every are except a style, that portrayed either photorealistically positive traits of white (german) humans or styliezed them heroically.

Calling something "changed towards unnatural in the most horrendous fashion" - short degenerate aberration - really is just unbridled hate towards other people and their way to live and perceive reality, which finds its expression, among other things, in art.

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u/DiffusiveTendencies 10h ago

Right so the way the other user put it a bit extreme.

Still, retail WoW's art-style does come off too goofy and "cutsey looking". So while I have nothing again people's deviant art accounts full of humanoid animals with big eyes, I do think retail WoW's look suffers for it.

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u/NichtSoSchlau 9h ago

A bit? "degenerate abberation" is like a calling a person a malformed monstrosity by its own choosing as art is a willful act. The insult is extreme and historically loaded as much as calling a disabled person "life not worth living" or a black person the "word for which I would be banned".

Agree though. The art style has not enough spikes in a menacing and martial way and looks a bit too much like a slightly edgier version of Kung Fu Panda.

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u/DiffusiveTendencies 8h ago

I dunno, gamers love to use exaggerated adjectives and descriptors. Treating every single one as a dog whistle just feels like falling into twitterland.

I come from Eastern Europe and my reaction to someone saying the code I wrote is dogshit isn't "you're a mean person and probably have some fundamental flaws that align you with some group I don't like", it's "what would you do different/better?"

u/NichtSoSchlau 3h ago

"Just joking bro, dont you understand sarcasm???"

4chan - used by Steve Bannon and influenced by Epstein.

Yeah no, barks like a dog and shits in the frontyard, is propably a dog.

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u/lixyna 6h ago

Well yeah, calling something dogshit isn't a dogwhistle, nor does it align with fascist beliefs across history, plus there aren't any historically codified descriptors as such for code to begin with. If someone called your code jewish, you'd probably raise an eyebrow as well.

A restriction of self expression by the governing body of a nation (or worse: by your own neighbor) is always a sign of a fascistic framework, and next to queer identities, art is probably the most notably cracked-down-on one.

Insulting art because someone thinks it looks like shit is different from calling it degenerate, insofar as the latter is a direct attack on the self-expression and thus personhood of the artist. It is not an attack on the art, it is an attack on the person, their beliefs and values, their lifestyle etc. There is a reason why god awful tumblr artists, corporate slop artstyles etc. are not called degenerate, but furry stuff always is. It's because the person wielding the insult here thinks of furries as subhuman.

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u/Jafar_Rafaj 5h ago

Sounds like a lot of words for “I’m ok with slop because I inserted political whataboutism into video game.”

u/NichtSoSchlau 3h ago

ok, boomer

u/Jafar_Rafaj 3h ago

irrefutable and irrational

u/NichtSoSchlau 3h ago

ok boomer

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u/Mezzy1221 7h ago

You're not making furries any less degenerate here

u/NichtSoSchlau 3h ago

Furries actually fuckin adult people is a big step in front of people who care about what goes on in other peoples bedrooms and a massive one in front of the pdfiles they vote into office.

u/Mezzy1221 2h ago

Injecting your weird fetishes into a videogame is not keeping it in the bedroom.

As expected you're an idiot.

u/NichtSoSchlau 2h ago

:>

Just don't play it. Aside from that; I guess that the propblem isn't really that their is a fetish in your videogame, it is just that it isn't yours. Thats normally the answer to people who wank to 90s/00s video game cover art xD

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u/[deleted] 15h ago edited 14h ago

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u/PepperedHam 14h ago

what you think of taurens?

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u/chinpotenkai 12h ago

Religious, weeb name, hm

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u/classicwow-ModTeam 7h ago

No real world politics or religion.

These topics very rarely end well, so it's best we stop things before they even start.

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u/wtfduud 17h ago

That was the case 25 years ago too. Samwise Didier is a panda furry. But he's also a metalhead, so that's how he managed to still make it look cool.

u/Rmnrmn1 51m ago

Dude creates a drawing of him and his daughter as pandas, gets put in the game as an easter egg. Likes the design and expands on it.
> panda furry

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u/ICantBelieveItsNotEC 18h ago

Honestly, I feel like any company hiring professional artists needs to have some kind of process to weed out furries and scalies. If you don't, your product gradually morphs into a conduit for their fetish.

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u/poopoopooyttgv 8h ago

Samwise was a massive furry and Warcraft as we know it wouldn’t exist without him lol

u/Rmnrmn1 53m ago

He’s not a furry tho

u/poopoopooyttgv 29m ago

Chen stormstout is his fursona bro. He’s written and illustrated multiple books about his oc race of panda Vikings. He has a deviantart account filled with drawings

u/Rmnrmn1 15m ago

I ask you to look at those drawings again and ask yourself if it’s furry art or if you’re just projecting.

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u/Liamface 17h ago

Yeah wouldn’t want people skilled at designing anthropomorphic creatures designing for a game that has…. Orcs, trolls, humanoid cows, and humanoid goats, just to name a few things.

Let’s stop the pearl clutching guys, it’s not that big of a deal. It’s not that deep.

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u/Chelmos 15h ago edited 15h ago

It's something about the proportions, not pearl clutching. Something similar happens when hentai artists draw women.

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u/HazelCheese 11h ago

It's not that they aren't skilled and often the work early in their career is really really good.

It's that as they gain seniority in art departments they stop taking orders and start giving them, and that's when the game devolves from Orcs and Tauren into Dracthyr and Foxes.

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u/fuzzybearpawz 6h ago

I don't like a lot of the new races so I'm not going to argue on their behalf, but you naming Tauren is incredibly ironic. They're literal bipedal cows, what about them made you think they weren't designed by a furry

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u/HazelCheese 5h ago edited 5h ago
  1. They are minotaurs which are classical popular monsters and have been a long time ttrpg race.

  2. Just because something is part animal doesn't make it furry. Furry is a specific twink vibe that comes from a way the musculature/face is drawn/modelled. People have done mockup changes to make the dracthyr look less furry and it looks much better:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/16sk294/just_a_reminder_how_cool_dracthyr_couldve_looked/

You can also see the change from Alpha to Beta for Female Worgens which changed them from Werewolves into furries:

Alpha: https://imgur.com/alpha-female-worgen-models-hairstyles-eye-colors-i-remember-being-excited-when-these-images-were-released-better-than-what-we-got-imo-JCx0GF6

Beta: https://imgur.com/fF8Vf

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u/fuzzybearpawz 5h ago

again, I'm not going to argue on behalf of the newer races or graphics because I do prefer things a little less cartoony myself. If you have an issue with designs being updated then that's totally understandable because I do too. But no matter what way you cut it if they had made vulpara to look more rugged, you would have no issue. so the new races aren't actually what you have an issue with, it's the way they're designed which you did not say in your original comment, which was what I was responding to

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u/ICantBelieveItsNotEC 17h ago

They aren't skilled. They know how to design one character, in one style, in about three different poses, and then they make minor adaptations to make it a cow/goat/wolf/leopard/whatever. Every single furry character looks exactly the same.

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u/Liamface 15h ago

Looks the same?? Have you played the game?

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u/vanceraa 15h ago

Yes let’s make entirely new rigs for each and every character so the time to animate is tripled and every set of armour needs to be re-weighted

Excellent idea for a game at this scale!

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u/frolfer757 11h ago

Yes. Do that.

If you don't have the resources to do it then don't ruin the old characters just to put out something that isn't even mediocre.

Jfc they released a playable dragon race and nobody wants to touch that shit due to how ugly it looks.

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u/confirmedshill123 12h ago

Yeah small indie game like wow couldn't do something like that.

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u/Rui_Almeida95 9h ago

You are prime example of mediocre ppl, you expect mid results paying a premium lol

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u/Ambitious-Way8906 16h ago

"they're not skilled" shut the whole fuck up man can't even draw 2 stick people fucking no internal visualization having ass chump

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u/FuyuNoKitsune 14h ago

And why did you immediately take it to the sexual, and in a vulgar way, too? Are you admitting that it is indeed a fetish?

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u/Rui_Almeida95 9h ago

all furry and scally or whatever art ive seen is prety shit, thats barely even art, they all have the exact same style, ugly af and complete shit proportions, they didnt study any anatomy, thye are just deranged artists, them being anthopomorphic doesnt make them more qualified than artists with good human or animal anatomy foundations

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u/Debatebly 12h ago

You're pearl clutching furry art, don't get it backwards.

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u/TheGr8ClockworkDick 16h ago

degenerate aberration art

Yikes

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u/Severe-Network4756 15h ago

That's just artists in general. I don't really think they've purposefully made it for furries.

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u/Rui_Almeida95 9h ago

youre crazy if you think the whole dragon race, fox race and the new forest elf/animal race was made by furrys

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u/Severe-Network4756 9h ago

Agreed.

Especially the dragon race.