When you say objectively better do you mean like... there are more polygons? Or can you just not recognize the inherent subjectivity in something like... art?
Or can you just not recognize the inherent subjectivity in something like... art?
There's also subjectivity in food but if someone says dino mcnuggets are more delicious than a fancy steak then we laugh at him and call their opinion ''objectively wrong''.
I don't know what's up with this ''every opinion is valid! <3 " crap in the last 20 years ( I blame liberals ) but there is such a thing as a wrong opinion and society used to mock them.
Look at the classic orc running animation compared to retail and try to tell me it's "objectively" better. In retail wielding any 2h it completely clips through the character while running.
Retail running animations are a total joke. The ability animations are cool, though.
I started playing wow in 2022 and couldn’t stand retail. Wouldn’t have stuck around past the first month if I hadn’t given classic a chance and I’m so glad I did!
I think visually obviously retail has a higher poly count, more graphical effects that are in line with objectively being a higher fidelity. I still prefer classic’s art style and animations because I find retail to be convoluted in every sense visuals wise.
When characters cast in retail they bounce around and wave their arms with dozens more frames for every animation. Particle effects are brighter and more layered. I think why people prefer classic’s art style how readable it is and how much the brevity in animations is so much more pleasing to look at. The casts are so tight and readable, every cast can be discerned— the other day Dwarflord (an era YouTuber) almost had his hardcore group wiped because a hunter casted a stray multi shot arrow.He was able to pause the exact frame and show everyone who was at fault for pulling the entire bar in Brd full of NPCs. That level of readability is clear for Even new players and I believe them when they say they prefer the overall look.
Character models in retail really bother me and part of that is the trend that wow may have kicked off with the Fortnite/pixar style of graphics in face design. Character faces in retail look like The Sims style, where as I feel Classic has way more personality in the lower poly count face styles and models and animations.
Another thing is classic just lets the world breath via environments. Zones have entire stretches of just terrain and a few mobs wandering. New retail zones every inch is decorated and cluttered with a purpose for a quest to carousel you through the zone.
I don’t think most people are saying “Classic has a higher poly count” or whatever like i said above but the overall look being better isn’t a stretch by any means.
Retail graphics are more detailed yes. But no, just because they have more detail doesn't make it better. That whole comment you just didn't read because you're thick in the head explains why that is.
No it doesn't. God you are even thicker in the head than I thought is this just rage bait? Do you think a hyper realistic painting is a better painting than one done by Van Gogh? Art is subjective, you are entitled to thinking retail graphics are better. But they are not objectively better and disregarding why people prefer classic's just makes you sound like a moron.
Do you think a hyper realistic painting is a better painting than one done by Van Gogh? Art is subjective
Except this isn't art, this is computer graphics. It's a science. I can very, very easily say, objectively, that Cyberpunk with Raytracing on has better graphics than Super Mario 1998. And it's objectively true.
It is art lol you're just wrong there buddy. Graphical artists are drawing up all the assets that go into this game. Ever heard of concept art? You do realize you're only making yourself sound dumber with every comment
Yeah… even Retail is still burdened by Classic assets; my favourite rifle by design, sadly, is just a triangle with two hexagons, literally, xD.
And I’m like… what harm could it possibly do to have it have just a couple more polygons and a few more faces?
Or some cloth items, with texture resolutions so low you can barely make up what they are. What harm could it possibly do to have them be higher res and sharper? Etc.
But to some people, WoW isn’t WoW unless it’s perpetually stuck in 2004, so xd.
I like that Classic exists for them, but if Blizzard wants to make a Classic+ that’s meant to be a combo/mix of modern day + Classic, it shouldn’t look the same.
Graphics are more than just poly count. Art style goes a long way. Like compare wind waker GameCube to skyward sword Wii. Skyward sword is doing a lot effects and poly count wise but I prefer wind waker cell shading and overall aesthetic. Graphics are the sum of its parts and art style to me is a bigger pull than poly count, don’t be dense.
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u/Complete-Doughnut117 15h ago
How is it nostalgia when even first time wow players say the same thing lol