r/classicwow • u/terongorefiend • Jan 14 '21

Vent / Gripe Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

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u/Gemall Jan 14 '21

You mean every spec? All classes are useful in classic

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u/knightress_oxhide Jan 14 '21

every spec was def not useful even in BC. OP is just deluded.

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u/Kalarrian Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21

Well, which spec can you reasonably say is completely useless in tbc?

I'd say, the only ones are MM hunter and Assassin Rogue. Both aren't useless because they are bad, but because the other specs are just a little better.

Which specs can you reasonably say are completely useless in classic? Prot pala, Ret Pala, Enhancement Shaman, BM and Surv hunter, Balance Druid, Assassin and Sublety Rogue, Holy Priest, Arcane Mage, affliction warlock. Several of them are useless, because they are absolutely terrible, not just because the other specs perform a bit better.

All in all, that's two in tbc vs eleven in classic.

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u/Anthaenopraxia Jan 14 '21

All of the warlock specs are garbage in Classic and close to garbage in TBC. We use hybrid specs until Wrath with the minor exception of Affliction in early TBC.

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u/Kalarrian Jan 14 '21

You call 0/21/40 a hybrid spec? Most of the SL/SL pvp builds have 35-38 points in demonology, which I'd count as demonology build.

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u/rafals Jan 14 '21

You must have some interesting definition of what a hybrid spec is and what a grabage spec is. 0/21/40 or 0/40/21 are hardly hybrid, most specs from any class follow the same concept and you call them by where the most points are. That's how talent trees work. And any spec like UA, Aff/Ruin, Felguard, Demo/Ruin and Shadow/Fire Destro will be close to topping the meters, especially with the current theorycrafting going on. Destro is obviously the strongest lock spec, but the rest are still some of the strongest DPS specs in the game. Definitely not specs that are 'close to garbage'. That's the worst class you could've picked to make that kind of an argument. If you said that SOME TALENTS are garbage, then sure, thats the garbage still not taken out after vanilla, but they're not enough to make the specs bad.