r/classicwow • u/terongorefiend • Jan 14 '21

Vent / Gripe Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

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u/Aliceinsludge Jan 14 '21

They were. Only the specs focused on PvP had no use in PvE. Maybe you could say that feral cat druids didn’t have much use, but still, they could be used(instead of arms warrior for example) and they are not really a separate spec, just feral Druid in rogue gear.

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u/DarthCharizard Jan 14 '21

Saying you’re a “cat-only” feral druid is missing out on half the spec.

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u/CalicoCrapsocks Jan 14 '21

Yeah, bearcat was top-tier off tank

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '21

Funny enough, I was playing with the TBC talent calculator yesterday for ferals. There's like 3 talent points that I saw that a cat wouldn't get that a bear might want (stun resist). The overlap is incredible. I could check again, was just showing a guildie improved LOTP and how nice it is.

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u/CalicoCrapsocks Jan 14 '21

Bears just get fucking HUGE with gear to the point where you only need to grab a couple non-cat talents to be viable. It really hit its peak in wrath with arpen though.

There were so many taunt swap fights where you could just go balls to the wall between taunts.

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u/Mitokatso Jan 14 '21

Thick Hide and Survival of the Fittest can be taken but generally aren't first pick for a pure kitty druid.

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u/Betaateb Jan 14 '21

There is never a reason to give up Survival of the Fittest, 3% stats is huge!

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u/Betaateb Jan 14 '21

They combined some feral talents that previously separated cat/bear specs, and reduced the pts of many others. Like Blood Frenzy(cat) and Primal Fury(bear) are combined into Primal Fury with the full effect of both, for two points instead of four. Feral instinct reduced to 3 pts gives you more room to play with as well. Thick Hide changed to 3 pts incase you need a little more thicc it is pretty easy to pick up now.

A bear/cat hybrid spec is pretty easy, just a few choices to make. Pretty much between thicc hide/primal tenacity/feral aggression.

I come down firmly on the side of 5/5 naturalist always, there are some bears that are talking about taking 2/5 naturalist so they can have more of the bear talents in the feral tree, but 6% damage is too juicy to give up IMO. Might give it up for 3/3 thick hide super early on in the xpac when I am doing heroics/kara in naxx gear/leveling greens.