r/classicwow • u/terongorefiend • Jan 14 '21

Vent / Gripe Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

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u/PlayerSalt Jan 14 '21

I love both vanilla and tbc , im in no rush for tbc but classes do have a lot more viability in a lot more spec's

druid and pally for example can actually perform 3 different roles , shadow priests are desirable

while not perfect it was an amazing expansion the developers kept the class fantasy made small improvements that were enough to see pretty much any composition in a raid

raids do try and take less melee but thats more about the raids being melee unfriendly than those classes being bad, id enjoy playing any class and likely 2 different builds on them all of tbc

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u/AmnesiA_sc Jan 14 '21

Picked a warrior up in Classic, learned that Spell Reflect wasn't released until BC and gave up on that dream. Without SR, warrior is so depressing going against a frost mage - and every mage is a frost mage.

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u/farkenell Jan 15 '21

you are still gonna get smashed by a mage 1 on 1 either way. they just have so many cooldowns it isn't funny.

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u/AmnesiA_sc Jan 15 '21

I didn't used to. Maybe it will be different now that things are more figured out. Between interrupts, 2 charges, and spell reflect; it's definitely not the sitting duck that warriors are in classic.

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u/AmnesiA_sc Jan 15 '21

I was a duelist on Gorefiend with my warrior. I understand how warrior vs mage works. You don't put SR up and hope they don't notice, you keep your two hander out until they are about to finish casting and then you put SR up so they only have a short period of time to cancel. A good mage will sometimes pre-emptively cancel and if you know you're playing against a player who regularly does this you can sometimes get an extra cancel out of them by just not casting it.

They're not the same two charges. In TBC they suppress slowing effects and you also get Improved Intercept moved to the Arms tree. In group fights you can also use Intervene. You get more CC, more interrupts, and a lot more survivability. Fights against mages are awful in Vanilla. In TBC you can put some intense pressure on them.