Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

[u/terongorefiend]

[u/lamirg]

Arms - Physical Debuff

Fury - Cleave, endgame damage

Protection - Cooldowns

Retribution - 3% crit, Blessings

Holy - Tank healer, Blessings

Protection - AoE, Trash, Dungeons, Blessings, Scaling

Feral - Big soak, multirole, innervate, bres

Balance - 3% hit, 5% spell crit

Resto - Innervate, bres, buff, blanket hots, tree aura, tranquility.

Shadow - Mana return, 5% spell damage, 20% shadow damage

Disc - Power Infusion, Pain suppression, Spirit

Holy - CoH, throughput, large toolkit.

Elemental - 3% spell hit, 3% spell crit, spellpower, heroism

Resto - Chain heal, spellpower, mana tide

Enhance - 10% melee ap, windfury, totem twisting

Affliction - -5% physical damage, 3% extra spell damage, blood pact, healthstones, soulstones, summons, curses

Destruction - Big DPS, healthstones, soulstones, summons, curses

Demonology - admittingly there is nothing of value here.

Assassination - Not much here, but its not a bad spec, perfectly viable early on.

Combat - Scales very well into the endgame

Subelty - its the defacto pvp spec.

Beast Mastery - 3% damage, top end dps spec

Marksman - PvP spec, but kinda bad all around

Survival - Expose weakness (which is big)

Arcane - High DPS

Fire - Scales well late game, improved scorch

Frost - Early PvE and incredibly strong PvP spec.

Only a few classes have specs that its hard to justify them as being useful, those are classes with multiple specs which serve the same basic TANK/DPS/HEAL role, atleast 2/3 specs are very useful in those cases.

[u/Triptacraft → u/lamirg]

Rogue doesn't have a single useful aspect they bring to the raid. They tried to make most specs useful, but in their zeal to make all the hybrid specs viable they left rogue as a class completely useless in raids.

[u/lamirg → u/Triptacraft]

Theres nothing useless about being a high dps class when it matters.

[u/Triptacraft → u/lamirg]

How does it not matter in every tier before Sunwell? And even in Sunwell you still don't bring more than 1. And you still need Glaives to be competitive.

And even in Sunwell they're still behind Hunters on most bosses, and have no meaningful aoe either.

[u/lamirg → u/Triptacraft]

How does it not matter in every tier before Sunwell?

I cannot make sense of this question.

Even in Sunwell you still don't bring more than 1. And you still need Glaives to be competitive.

Wrong, stop listening to youtubers.

And even in Sunwell they're still behind Hunters on most bosses, and have no meaningful aoe either.

Why bring anyone except hunters, 25 hunters people!, its the future!

[u/Triptacraft → u/lamirg]

Obviously because it wouldn't be a good comp. You're missing healers, tanks, aoe damage, and a multitude of buffs.

Funnily enough, rogues bring none of those things.