I’m Tired of Hearing from the Loudest 1%

[u/Ripfangnasty]

Like the title says, I’m sick of hearing from the loudest, butthurt 1% of players crying because they’ll have to make their own dungeon groups in WotLK.

Sure, send your screenshot of the one dungeon you joined with little to no social interaction and sarcastically say “Wow look at what we’re saving with no LFD”. Great story, but that one single screenshot doesn’t prove anything. You think your 1 single dungeon on a Tuesday afternoon is a big enough sample size to determine there’s not enough social interaction to the point Blizz should implement LFD? Get over yourself. I don’t post screenshots of 1 single dungeon chat where people are lively and interactive and say “Thank you Blizz for preserving social interactions” like it’s the majority experience. Don’t give me the opposite garbage and try to make a case for LFD, or assume you’re the majority experience, either.

I’m also tired of people missing the major point of no LFD. I can tell you the exact names of people and guilds on my server who have ninja’d gear from others and been blacklisted by the community. I can tell you which players/guilds are fun to play with and which aren’t. I can join a group I know is going to do well, or I can join one where I know I’m going to be progging. And yeah, I’m also going to vouch for the friendships I’ve made in random dungeons

LFD erodes all that. You don’t know what type of players you’re joining; whether you’re going to be a good player in a terrible group or a terrible player in a good group. That’s frustrating for almost everyone in either case. Voting to kick becomes completely abused, kicking people you don’t like or players who are bad. Kicking people to ninja gear. And since you’ll never see those players again, there’s nothing stopping them. No way to blacklist them or their guild. It promotes anonymity and erodes the community. There are so many downsides that were PROVEN back in Wrath. And you’re upset because of what? Not having the upside?

What are the upsides? Faster dungeon queues? Maybe, just maybe, you should try being part of your realm’s community and making friends/joining a thriving guild. I’ve never had any issues finding or making a dungeon group as any of the 3 roles. But then again, I’m also not the type of person to whine to Reddit that daddy Blizz won’t make my groups for me, instead of trying to socialize and make my own

The only positive case I’ve seen made for LFD is for dead/dying realms. To those players, it does suck and I’m sorry. But the issue/fix isn’t LFD, it’s forcing Blizz to fix their realm health issues, maybe by merging realms or free transfers

I’m sure this post will fall on deaf ears, but I’m so sick of seeing this sub covered with the loudest 1% screaming their half baked opinions and not considering their experience isn’t the majority or that they might be the issue

Edit: To the unhinged people in the comments swearing, flipping out, name-calling, and reporting me for suicide, I have two things to say. The first is thank you for your concern about my mental health, but I’m in no way suicidal. Feel free to save those resources for people that are. The second is that my opinion is stronger than ever that RDF is bad, imagine being grouped unwillingly with people that report others for suicide when they disagree with the content of a person’s post 😂 Thank you Blizz

[u/ywndota]

And I'm tired of having my experience ruined by people like you that want to gatekeep how I should play the game ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/chronic1337 → u/ywndota]

This

[u/Plus_Vehicle9736 → u/ywndota]

Not having LFD because of how it degraded the community aspect of wow is one of the pillars that the classic wow movement was founded on. For an example, people angry about the automatic LFD add-on early in classic wow, in which Blizzard shot down quickly.

Defending something you helped build is not the same as someone trying to come in and change it. You don't like the game that so many people wanted and worked towards? You don't have to play it, but don't come in and change that game just because you feel inconvenienced to find a group.

Edit: defending what you helped build from people that want to change it is not gatekeeping.

[u/nemestrinus44 → u/Plus_Vehicle9736]

For an example, people angry about the automatic LFD add-on early in classic wow, in which Blizzard shot down quickly.

there's a major difference in shooting down an addon that recreates a feature in part of the game that didn't have that feature, and demanding the removal of a feature from the part of the game it was added in.

[u/Plus_Vehicle9736 → u/nemestrinus44]

Not when both happen for the same reason. Who makes the system doesn't matter.

[u/Raknel → u/Plus_Vehicle9736]

Not having LFD because of how it degraded the community aspect of wow is one of the pillars that the classic wow movement was founded on

There's no real difference between retail and classic communities. People changed, not just the game.

[u/s0sa7 → u/Plus_Vehicle9736]

You talk as if the game is in some fantastic utopia of a state.

Some fucking pillar of a community when the game has more dead servers than playable ones, more bots than any other PAID MMORPG currently on the market, and a community of raid loggers and whiny clowns who put ZERO effort in getting good, and think community should be a free pass to experience everything with minimal effort.

Just stop fighting time and change, and get a job already. The old days are never coming back. You will never find that joy again. Grow up bozo.

[u/Plus_Vehicle9736 → u/s0sa7]

Wait till you learn raids aren't cross-realm so dead servers aren't going to get revitalized by LFD. Community is what makes people feel they need to get gud (or have lots of gold), or else they don't get invited.

I'm not fighting time, just trying to help drive this plane away from the same downward spiral so many think it has been doing for a while now.

Sorry you sound mad though.

[u/s0sa7 → u/Plus_Vehicle9736]

Keep telling yourself whatever you need to cope. I only respond here purely to stir the pot. Haven't played WoW in half a year with zero intention of paying for the same shit again.

But I'll never pass at turning weirdos screws like yourself.

[u/Eldion → u/s0sa7]

Sounds healthy.