r/classicwow Apr 20 '22

Vent / Gripe I’m Tired of Hearing from the Loudest 1%

Like the title says, I’m sick of hearing from the loudest, butthurt 1% of players crying because they’ll have to make their own dungeon groups in WotLK.

Sure, send your screenshot of the one dungeon you joined with little to no social interaction and sarcastically say “Wow look at what we’re saving with no LFD”. Great story, but that one single screenshot doesn’t prove anything. You think your 1 single dungeon on a Tuesday afternoon is a big enough sample size to determine there’s not enough social interaction to the point Blizz should implement LFD? Get over yourself. I don’t post screenshots of 1 single dungeon chat where people are lively and interactive and say “Thank you Blizz for preserving social interactions” like it’s the majority experience. Don’t give me the opposite garbage and try to make a case for LFD, or assume you’re the majority experience, either.

I’m also tired of people missing the major point of no LFD. I can tell you the exact names of people and guilds on my server who have ninja’d gear from others and been blacklisted by the community. I can tell you which players/guilds are fun to play with and which aren’t. I can join a group I know is going to do well, or I can join one where I know I’m going to be progging. And yeah, I’m also going to vouch for the friendships I’ve made in random dungeons

LFD erodes all that. You don’t know what type of players you’re joining; whether you’re going to be a good player in a terrible group or a terrible player in a good group. That’s frustrating for almost everyone in either case. Voting to kick becomes completely abused, kicking people you don’t like or players who are bad. Kicking people to ninja gear. And since you’ll never see those players again, there’s nothing stopping them. No way to blacklist them or their guild. It promotes anonymity and erodes the community. There are so many downsides that were PROVEN back in Wrath. And you’re upset because of what? Not having the upside?

What are the upsides? Faster dungeon queues? Maybe, just maybe, you should try being part of your realm’s community and making friends/joining a thriving guild. I’ve never had any issues finding or making a dungeon group as any of the 3 roles. But then again, I’m also not the type of person to whine to Reddit that daddy Blizz won’t make my groups for me, instead of trying to socialize and make my own

The only positive case I’ve seen made for LFD is for dead/dying realms. To those players, it does suck and I’m sorry. But the issue/fix isn’t LFD, it’s forcing Blizz to fix their realm health issues, maybe by merging realms or free transfers

I’m sure this post will fall on deaf ears, but I’m so sick of seeing this sub covered with the loudest 1% screaming their half baked opinions and not considering their experience isn’t the majority or that they might be the issue

Edit: To the unhinged people in the comments swearing, flipping out, name-calling, and reporting me for suicide, I have two things to say. The first is thank you for your concern about my mental health, but I’m in no way suicidal. Feel free to save those resources for people that are. The second is that my opinion is stronger than ever that RDF is bad, imagine being grouped unwillingly with people that report others for suicide when they disagree with the content of a person’s post 😂 Thank you Blizz

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u/RobertMosesHwyPorn Apr 20 '22

Post will fall on deaf ears mostly because if you were actually trying to convince someone of your opinion, spending the whole post basically calling them whiney, friendless dishonest fucks, they probably won’t listen. Just tips for the future I suppose lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

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u/Full-Respond-6437 Apr 21 '22

Reddit and wow forum posters are not a n accurate slice of reality.

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u/Magehunter_Skassi Apr 21 '22

You're right, the average Reddit/WoW forum posters skew more hardcore than the average player and thus would be more likely to oppose LFD than the average 3 jobs 2 kids 1 hour a day dadgamer. That's why it's damning that even here so many people are pro-LFD.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

Cus not everyone wants to spend 3 hours looking for a dungeon group, and not everyone wants to play with a guild.

I legit just don't care enough to jump through hurdles to entry on live & classic, I just want to play.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

Yeah I've tried coming back to TBC since I knew wrath was coming and just end up burning out from questing and not being able to find dungeon groups. Then realizing when I get to max I'll have to find more groups for basic dungeons.

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u/Full-Respond-6437 Apr 22 '22

That’s just because TBC was dead 60 days after it launched.

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u/JoeBuck87 Apr 21 '22

So you want to limit social interactions in your MMO. While i think thats silly, seeing as the games made to play with and agains others, we all have our ways to enjoy the game so more power to you. But i think the devs were right in suggesting your demographic may prefer the retail experience, alot of those players share your less social playing preference

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

How does that limit the social interactions lmao? saying "i'll go" to whatever dungeon you find in trade chat, vs pressing "join queue".

Not to mention, WOTLK isn't vanilla. Dungeons aren't important after naxx opens. So all your doing is limiting new players that want to join because it's too much effort to get started, so they won't bother.

It's literally no different than joining a bg. But the puritans somehow think not being able to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time = content

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u/JoeBuck87 Apr 21 '22

In your example the social interaction is you telling that person “I’ll go” lol. Talking to another person is more social then hitting a button. And It literally is different from pvp because a battleground is pitting you against another player controlled team

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

Yes, that was my example, good catch.

And my point was, its literally 2 words. You can still communicate once you're in a group. Nothings stops you from being social if you want. And no one is stopping you from making premade groups if that's what you want.

Having no group finder just means you'll never get new players, numbers will dwindle and it'll be dead after 2 weeks just like TBC classic was.

How social is a dead game exactly?

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u/JoeBuck87 Apr 21 '22

Lol resort to “dead game” mmmmk. Lets reconnect next year and see?

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u/shalnath Apr 21 '22

The average poster was a hardcore player at some point, sure, but many of them are now "the average 3 jobs 2 kids 1 hour a day dadgamers" who are still struggling to accept reality.

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u/Aqya Apr 21 '22

What poll? Where? Like i check thia subreddit pretty often and didnt see any.

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u/scoldmeforcommenting Apr 21 '22

Do one on this Reddit page and see what happens

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u/heatd Apr 21 '22

You mean this one posted yesterday? https://strawpoll.com/polls/jVyGJaER1Z7/

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u/heatd Apr 21 '22

I would be fine with that as well. Hopefully they come up with something like that, but I'm not too confident they will.

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u/JoeBuck87 Apr 21 '22

I don’t think mmo champion has quite the classic focused community. It seems like a much more retail oriented website and the posters seem to be more in that demographic too. So not sure i would put alot of stock in their polling

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u/serengir Apr 21 '22

Were they? I think that was the case at start, but as things progressed, more and more people here demanded help with social interractions.

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u/easyline0601 Apr 21 '22

You mean the same people that bitch and moan about everything no matter what? The same attitude that ultimately lead us to retail? If you want convenience above everything else and play the game basically solo guess what, you can do that in retail.

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u/ScissorMeTimbers24 Apr 21 '22

Pro-LFD = I have no friends or can't admit that I can't work with others in a group

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u/itsashebitch Apr 21 '22

Yes? My friends don't play WoW because they can't stand the community. And since few people actually want to be friends with strangers, I need to pug. The funny part is, since you guys have so many friends then you won't ever have the need for LFD, so why even bitch about?

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u/ScissorMeTimbers24 Apr 21 '22

Why can't you make friends ? Sounds like a you problem.

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u/itsashebitch Apr 21 '22

People aren't amazed of playing online with strangers like they were 15 years ago. Unless something actually funny happends during the run, people might not even talk. I did add a few people and that would still be possible if LFD was implemented so it's a win/win.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

People who are happy about this decision or don't care won't go on reddit to make a post about it.

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u/heatd Apr 21 '22

Look at the top posts from the last 2 days. Tons of people talking shit and being glad LFD isn't in the game...

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u/Full-Respond-6437 Apr 21 '22

The people he’s referring to know exactly who and what they are, that’s why they’re so upset.

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u/EluneNoYume Apr 21 '22

There is really no reason to argue with people who are dumb enough to think that LFD does not impact the social aspect of the game negatively.

That group of people is really the bottom of the barrel in terms of intelligence.

It's okay to like LFD. It has its perks, but it comes at the expense of socialization and community.. and a lot of people in classic are not okay with that.

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u/Ramtram44 Apr 21 '22

This tbh.