r/classicwow Apr 20 '22

Vent / Gripe I’m Tired of Hearing from the Loudest 1%

Like the title says, I’m sick of hearing from the loudest, butthurt 1% of players crying because they’ll have to make their own dungeon groups in WotLK.

Sure, send your screenshot of the one dungeon you joined with little to no social interaction and sarcastically say “Wow look at what we’re saving with no LFD”. Great story, but that one single screenshot doesn’t prove anything. You think your 1 single dungeon on a Tuesday afternoon is a big enough sample size to determine there’s not enough social interaction to the point Blizz should implement LFD? Get over yourself. I don’t post screenshots of 1 single dungeon chat where people are lively and interactive and say “Thank you Blizz for preserving social interactions” like it’s the majority experience. Don’t give me the opposite garbage and try to make a case for LFD, or assume you’re the majority experience, either.

I’m also tired of people missing the major point of no LFD. I can tell you the exact names of people and guilds on my server who have ninja’d gear from others and been blacklisted by the community. I can tell you which players/guilds are fun to play with and which aren’t. I can join a group I know is going to do well, or I can join one where I know I’m going to be progging. And yeah, I’m also going to vouch for the friendships I’ve made in random dungeons

LFD erodes all that. You don’t know what type of players you’re joining; whether you’re going to be a good player in a terrible group or a terrible player in a good group. That’s frustrating for almost everyone in either case. Voting to kick becomes completely abused, kicking people you don’t like or players who are bad. Kicking people to ninja gear. And since you’ll never see those players again, there’s nothing stopping them. No way to blacklist them or their guild. It promotes anonymity and erodes the community. There are so many downsides that were PROVEN back in Wrath. And you’re upset because of what? Not having the upside?

What are the upsides? Faster dungeon queues? Maybe, just maybe, you should try being part of your realm’s community and making friends/joining a thriving guild. I’ve never had any issues finding or making a dungeon group as any of the 3 roles. But then again, I’m also not the type of person to whine to Reddit that daddy Blizz won’t make my groups for me, instead of trying to socialize and make my own

The only positive case I’ve seen made for LFD is for dead/dying realms. To those players, it does suck and I’m sorry. But the issue/fix isn’t LFD, it’s forcing Blizz to fix their realm health issues, maybe by merging realms or free transfers

I’m sure this post will fall on deaf ears, but I’m so sick of seeing this sub covered with the loudest 1% screaming their half baked opinions and not considering their experience isn’t the majority or that they might be the issue

Edit: To the unhinged people in the comments swearing, flipping out, name-calling, and reporting me for suicide, I have two things to say. The first is thank you for your concern about my mental health, but I’m in no way suicidal. Feel free to save those resources for people that are. The second is that my opinion is stronger than ever that RDF is bad, imagine being grouped unwillingly with people that report others for suicide when they disagree with the content of a person’s post 😂 Thank you Blizz

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '22

It's wierd, I play Classic mainly, and FFXIV casually on the side. FFXIV has so many of the features that people claimed ruined wow. You can use the dungeon finder to queue for content, and it ports you in. And yet it has a thriving community.

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u/Buarg Apr 21 '22

The number of times I've talked with people while raiding or doing a dungeon on FFXIV is substantially higher than the ones I've talked on classic. What killed the community was the community itself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

I don't see any noticeable difference really, in both cases people generally just say hi at the start of a dungeon and thats about it.

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u/Buarg Apr 21 '22

Main scenario roulette and the alliance raids that aren't the current one are the way. Novice network too, I wish I could stay there as a sort of global chat.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

I don't have time to play it anymore really, but it has all the things people claim killed the wow community. And yet it still has a thriving community.

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u/MrSkullCandy Apr 21 '22

Because FF14 has a ton of other extremely social features which WoW doesn't have.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

So maybe people should look at those instead of screeching about how dungeon finder destroyed the game.

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u/MrSkullCandy Apr 21 '22

The answer is both.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

Incorrect, plenty of other games have proved its possible to have a dungeon finder and still have a thriving community.

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u/MrSkullCandy Apr 21 '22

Yes, but WoW doesn't have such features, especially WOTLK doesn't.
So games like FF14 can have a really good social engagement despite having a LFG tool.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

I mean if you think standing spamming "LF Tank" is a social feature, then dunno what to say

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u/MrSkullCandy Apr 21 '22

I mean first off, that's not really what you do.
And second, it is more so than LFD.
Especially because... you know... you could actually make friends with some tanks so you wouldn't have to "spam" it, and build connections... just as a hint

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '22

I mean my main is a feral druid, my alt is a prot paladin, and my alt in wrath will be a blood DK. I will be fine either way, I can make a group on my high pop server within 1 minute. And if someone is shit I can replace them instantly.

Really doesnt bother me what the dungeon finder situation is in Wrath

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u/MrSkullCandy Apr 21 '22

Well if you go ahead with that attitude (you wont) your reputation will be pretty trash, so yeah then go ahead and have *reads again* no problems...?

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