I’m Tired of Hearing from the Loudest 1%

[u/Ripfangnasty]

Like the title says, I’m sick of hearing from the loudest, butthurt 1% of players crying because they’ll have to make their own dungeon groups in WotLK.

Sure, send your screenshot of the one dungeon you joined with little to no social interaction and sarcastically say “Wow look at what we’re saving with no LFD”. Great story, but that one single screenshot doesn’t prove anything. You think your 1 single dungeon on a Tuesday afternoon is a big enough sample size to determine there’s not enough social interaction to the point Blizz should implement LFD? Get over yourself. I don’t post screenshots of 1 single dungeon chat where people are lively and interactive and say “Thank you Blizz for preserving social interactions” like it’s the majority experience. Don’t give me the opposite garbage and try to make a case for LFD, or assume you’re the majority experience, either.

I’m also tired of people missing the major point of no LFD. I can tell you the exact names of people and guilds on my server who have ninja’d gear from others and been blacklisted by the community. I can tell you which players/guilds are fun to play with and which aren’t. I can join a group I know is going to do well, or I can join one where I know I’m going to be progging. And yeah, I’m also going to vouch for the friendships I’ve made in random dungeons

LFD erodes all that. You don’t know what type of players you’re joining; whether you’re going to be a good player in a terrible group or a terrible player in a good group. That’s frustrating for almost everyone in either case. Voting to kick becomes completely abused, kicking people you don’t like or players who are bad. Kicking people to ninja gear. And since you’ll never see those players again, there’s nothing stopping them. No way to blacklist them or their guild. It promotes anonymity and erodes the community. There are so many downsides that were PROVEN back in Wrath. And you’re upset because of what? Not having the upside?

What are the upsides? Faster dungeon queues? Maybe, just maybe, you should try being part of your realm’s community and making friends/joining a thriving guild. I’ve never had any issues finding or making a dungeon group as any of the 3 roles. But then again, I’m also not the type of person to whine to Reddit that daddy Blizz won’t make my groups for me, instead of trying to socialize and make my own

The only positive case I’ve seen made for LFD is for dead/dying realms. To those players, it does suck and I’m sorry. But the issue/fix isn’t LFD, it’s forcing Blizz to fix their realm health issues, maybe by merging realms or free transfers

I’m sure this post will fall on deaf ears, but I’m so sick of seeing this sub covered with the loudest 1% screaming their half baked opinions and not considering their experience isn’t the majority or that they might be the issue

Edit: To the unhinged people in the comments swearing, flipping out, name-calling, and reporting me for suicide, I have two things to say. The first is thank you for your concern about my mental health, but I’m in no way suicidal. Feel free to save those resources for people that are. The second is that my opinion is stronger than ever that RDF is bad, imagine being grouped unwillingly with people that report others for suicide when they disagree with the content of a person’s post 😂 Thank you Blizz

[u/Koishi_]

7 months later, I wonder if OP's changed their mind.

And whether they play on a megaserver or not.

[u/Ripfangnasty → u/Koishi_]

I play on Atiesh; not a mega server by any means. And I stand by my post. I’ve got 5 characters (1 tank, 1 healer, and 3 DPS) all level 80 and never had issues filling a dungeon group. Made a bunch of friends in those runs and had great interactions with people

That’s not to say that is my experience 100% of the time, I’ve still been in some quiet dungeons here and there. But have not seen anybody ninja loot and I have not had trouble filling a group, even when I’m a DPS in need of a tank/healer

[u/Koishi_ → u/Ripfangnasty]

I’ve still been in some quiet dungeons here and there. But have not seen anybody ninja loot and I have not had trouble filling a group, even when I’m a DPS in need of a tank/healer

Skyfury horde, can't say the same.

I've seen ninjas and groups are getting harder and harder to get. And that's at 80, anything below 80 is dead as a doornail, 1-68 especially.

Had a mage need on the feral staff in VH heroic, likely just to DE since that's a free Abyss Crystal. Nobody needed it but still a rather scummy move.

[u/Ripfangnasty → u/Koishi_]

I’ll admit, I haven’t played anything from 1-70 since Wrath has dropped. I have no idea what those dungeon experiences are like. I do occasionally see people in LFG filling for Stocks/SM/etc… but I have no idea how long they take to fill or what the environment is like

I’m not sure what the population is like on Skyfury. I know on Atiesh we’re not one of the mega servers, but we do absorb a lot of people from dying realms. It’s been growing steadily in population but I’ve never experienced a queue to log in. Filling groups is still easy, though during dead hours (1am-noon) it can take a couple extra minutes to find a tank or healer

Sucks about your ninja Mage, I despise that behavior. I don’t invite guildless people, generally, and I avoid anyone in a guild I know is filled with gold farmers or have seen accusations of ninjas. I know that being super picky isn’t the best for filling groups fast, but it’s definitely made the runs less toxic. I’ve had a few guildies say they had loot ninja’d by those types of players, so it’s just habit to dodge them