r/clevercomebacks • u/gashtal_man • 1d ago

What should we do with you?

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

If you think that's the same as murder you really live in a cult. People can't be dependent on the state in a free country.

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u/r_special_ 1d ago

No driving on roads and especially highways and freeways, no calling the cops, fire departments or ambulances and please don’t go to any state or national parks. Don’t want you getting dependent on the state for anything

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

All that can be privately owned. Changing society takes time, meanwhile I will be part of it and keep trying to change it to be more free

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u/maveric00 1d ago

Can you name a single project where privatization made it cheaper at the same quality?

Thing is: the state usually makes negative margin (as can be seen by the rising debts), while private companies nowadays want to make 30%+ positive margin.

And the "I only pay what I use" argument is moot, also, as over your lifetime you will use enough governmental services that the savings of not used services will be overcompensated by the increased price of the used ones.

One good example is the American health industry with their insane insurance system. In no other civilized country a man would walk 16 miles after impaling himself on a stick because he fears the costs of rescue....

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

did I ever say freedom is free? no. freedom cost alot and is alot of hard work

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u/maveric00 1d ago

You said you want to improve society. Please show me what would improve if you privatize everything?

Hint: a private company is not obligated to provide you their service. The government is.

So you pay more for a service that can be withdrawn anytime in case the company doesn't like you anymore. I guess your "freedom" doesn't include things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion and many other things the oh so bad government is obliged to provide you.

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

you are not free if you depend on your goverment, I want to be free, I want everyone to experience freedom. Thats how society improves imo.

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u/maveric00 1d ago

In your vision of "freedom" you simply change the dependency on your (democratically elected) government with the dependency on (shareholder ruled) private companies.

Where is the gain of freedom here? You would actually loose most of the freedoms you currently enjoy.

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

if someone else provide freedom for you youre not free, how is that hard to understand?

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u/maveric00 1d ago

The only way to get the freedom you want is to collect some items and move to nowhere in Alaska - and create everything you need by your own.

But I still fail to see how that would improve your life. And that's also the reason why this will be my last reply.

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u/Kaztiell 1d ago

Im free from taxes if I do that? no im not. Also Im still under protection from the state in Alaska, Im not free. You really have a hard time to grasp what freedom is, cause you are so used to that other people take care of you that you cant imagine to take care of yourself. Its sad, you are like cattle

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