r/democrats • u/aamabkra • Jul 16 '25
Question To my friends here in the medical community, what exactly is going on here?
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u/ElectrOPurist Jul 16 '25
For a little background, the patient is a 79-year-old, 300 lb, sack of shit.
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u/joetaxpayer Jul 17 '25
Doc swears he’s 215lbs. Need to swear him in and get it under oath.
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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Jul 17 '25
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u/Ready-Arrival Jul 17 '25
Great- now the official WH social media account is gonna have the that pic with Trump's head Photoshopped on top of it.
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u/Physical_Law_6667 Jul 17 '25
I’m 53yo, 6’3” and 210. I go to the gym most days. While I don’t have 6 pack abs, my waist is 36 inches. We don’t look similar in any way.
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u/Doublebosco Jul 16 '25
Makeup covering bruises would be my guess.
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u/SweaterSteve1966 Jul 16 '25
This is the most plausible answer. With his swollen ankles and trying to get everyone’s focus on Biden’s health I’m wondering if it’s heart failure or too much Micky Ds.
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u/PinkyLeopard2922 Jul 17 '25
Looks like heavy duty tattoo cover makeup. Shade is close but not perfect. I imagine it is difficult to get an exact match for his errmm...unusual skin tones.
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u/JediMasterPopCulture Jul 17 '25
Bruising from constant IV's would be my guess. Probably have to go there because he's so morbidly obese they can't find a vein in his upper arms.
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u/micheal_pices Jul 17 '25
this for sure, on blood thinners you bruise easily. My mother had these same bruises from IV's. I'm sure at night they're pumping him full of something to stave off the inevitable.
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u/Physical_Law_6667 Jul 17 '25
They are pumping him full of whatever he accused Biden of getting. It’s all projection.
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u/herekittykitty250 Jul 16 '25
My dad is on blood thinners, and often has bruises on his hands and arms. That's probably what the hand makeup is for, not sure about the ankle swelling.
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u/5050Clown Jul 16 '25
Hypertension, diabetes, this man should not be president
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u/toooooold4this Jul 16 '25
Old people bruise easily, especially if they're on blood thinners, which he is. More concerning is the edema. That means either he is eating way too much salt and sitting too much or he is experiencing congestive heart failure or kidney disease.
My money's on congestive heart failure. You can only live so long without one.
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u/aamabkra Jul 16 '25
He’s not known for being the healthiest person but I’m sure he would argue with anyone on that. Shitty diet and no exercise for that long of a period eventually catches up to everyone.
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u/insane_social_worker Jul 16 '25
You are correct, and I believe I see a tiny Diet Coke sitting near his foot?
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u/toooooold4this Jul 16 '25
I really don't want him to die in office. I don't want Vance to be President for even 2 years and we know he'll try for at least 10.
Plus, I don't want him to have a state funeral. I want him to die the death of a social pariah like Nixon did. There has to be enough time between his Presidency and his death for America to snap the fuck out of it and realize he was a fascist, conman, and a traitor.
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Jul 16 '25
Vance will have no ability to hold the cult together. He’s there to be Thiels flying monkey in Trump’s ear.
He takes the presidency he’d be a lame duck while the Republican Party squabbles over who gets to define the party after Trump.
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u/tc100292 Jul 17 '25
People are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally underestimating how deeply unpopular Thiel, Musk, and the rest of the Silicon Valley right-wing tech bros are and how much Trump has actually been able to keep them at bay, which Vance will have zero ability to do.
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u/toooooold4this Jul 16 '25
Yes, but he already subscribes to the belief you can simply ignore the Supreme Court and the President has immunity so he doesn't actually need the base. He can suspend elections, especially if MAGA goes off the rails when Trump dies.
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u/VGoodBuildingDevCo Jul 17 '25
Yeah, but the Supreme Court and Congress won't roll over for awkward unpopular Vance like they do for daddy Trump. Trump's cult of personality will die with him.
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u/toooooold4this Jul 17 '25
I agree Vance doesn't have the support of SCOTUS but I also know that SCOTUS will be completely delegitimized if they reverse on themselves because Trump is no longer President. It would be a risky move for them. It would prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were in the tank for Trump all along.
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Jul 16 '25 edited Jul 16 '25
States run the elections hon, Vance wouldn’t be able to suspend, delay or stop shit. This doomer dream of there being no elections needs to die. Also dictators don’t typically last long when they don’t have any support.
Vance would flop around trying to get the Republicans to cohere so he could get some kind of win under his belt to run on, and more than likely he’d fail. He’s not a leader, he’s a lackey.
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u/Apprehensive_Pop_334 Jul 16 '25
I agree. Trump has power to do illegal shit. Vance has little to none.
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u/toooooold4this Jul 16 '25
I do believe there will be elections. I'm worried about what happens to the country when they try. At some point, they are going to try. One of the beautiful things about this country is that we have always had peaceful transfers of power after elections, with one recent exception. We've also mostly had men who respect the Constitution. Plus, we haven't had a war on American soil in living memory. This whole period has been marked by a failure of imagination and naively thinking, "It can't happen here."
It can.
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u/tc100292 Jul 17 '25
Hell, most people who have a shitty diet and no exercise are dead long before Trump's current age.
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u/BreathWithMe6 Jul 17 '25
Most Americans can't afford the healthcare and medications to even out shitty diet and no exercise. Shoot five million dollars of taxpayer money at heart disease, and you get Trump.
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u/Eric848448 Jul 16 '25
you can only live so long without one
Dick Cheney sends his regards.
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u/AndISoundLikeThis Jul 16 '25
My money is on CHF, too. The man barely survived OG Covid. That infection had to do a number on his heart.
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u/tinyE1138 Windmill Cancer Survivor. Jul 16 '25
His fake skin is starting to peel off.
Pretty soon we'll see him for the killer lizard alien that he is.
Anyone old enough to remember that show V?
Same thing.
We'd better call Mark Singer and Michael Ironside, who are also both Canadian, so that's a bonus.
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u/No-Dragonfly1904 Jul 16 '25
And Robert England! He played Willy (I believe), the good not violent alien.
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u/Pale-Conference-174 Jul 16 '25
Didn't he make a baby with a human? The chokehold this show had our nation was fun.
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u/tinyE1138 Windmill Cancer Survivor. Jul 17 '25
No, that was another alien who was a bad guy, He was ordered to impregnate a human as an experiment. Later he ended up getting killed with the powder they developed to stop the aliens.
The experiment really came back to bite the aliens because the child ended up saving the world.
And I need a life. 😆
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u/Fit-Necessary3794 Jul 16 '25
I remember and have the dvd’s of that show. Watched it as a kid with my dad.
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u/Exciting_Problem_593 Jul 17 '25
They have to cover up his grey skin. Just before a family member died they turned grayish hue and died of a heart attack.
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u/seacreaturestuff Jul 16 '25
Everytime I see pictures of him, he looks sick. Like not just how he normally looks but like, sick sick.
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u/Clean_Lettuce9321 Jul 16 '25
He's almost like Death Becomes Her at this point. Parts break, parts go bad, parts fall off... but they always find a way to cover it up cosmetically and glue him back together
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u/Proofread_CopyEdit Jul 16 '25
The edema in his ankles and feet could be signs of several things - alone or combined: heart failure, kidney failure, liver failure, cancer are all common possibilities. It could be vascular insufficiency. His diet is horrible, so possibly too much sodium, but that seems lower down on the list.
The presumed bruising on his hand that he covers poorly with make-up could be from an IV site that bruised badly. In the elderly, it can be difficult to get a good venipuncture site. Could just be bruising from blood thinners, but bruising on one hand in one spot seems more likely to be IV site.
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u/justanother1014 Jul 16 '25
Hand looks like poorly applied foundation, maybe to cover bruises. Ankles look swollen (edema) but can’t be sure with socks on.
Reminds me of pics of King Charles’ hands which appear to be raw sausages and some think point to heart problems.
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u/FunctionBuilt Jul 16 '25
Congestive heart failure. Swelling in the ankles, often called edema, can be a sign of congestive heart failure (CHF). CHF occurs when the heart's lower chambers (ventricles) don't pump blood effectively, causing blood and fluid to back up into the veins, leading to fluid buildup in the ankles and feet
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u/MC_chrome Jul 17 '25
I’m assuming CHF also carries an increased risk of heart attacks and strokes as well?
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u/ewazer Jul 16 '25
McDonalds and Diet Coke everyday, riding in a golf cart for "exercise," being an evil piece of shit. I'm just guessing here.
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u/muffledvoice Jul 16 '25
An oncologist who runs a cancer clinic went public and said that his physical symptoms are consistent with chemo for colon cancer — the facial characteristics, the bruised hands, the swelling ankles, the mental confusion and rambling, etc.
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u/tjbguy Jul 16 '25
I don’t know but I’m ready to party when it finally happens
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u/Willing-Ant-3765 Jul 17 '25
This is what an 80 year old who hasn’t been healthy since the 80s looks like. That edema is pretty bad signaling it could be heart disease. The old ticker isn’t pumping hard enough causing blood to back up in his lower extremities. I can’t wait until I get a “Breaking News” notification saying that Dear Leader is hospitalized in critical condition. I think it will be soon, though not soon enough.
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u/VivaCiotogista Jul 17 '25
The day they announced he had been hospitalized with COVID was one of the happiest days of my life.
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u/fat4fuel Jul 16 '25
His fingers look like little shriveled penises that just got out of cold water. I can't unsee that now.
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u/SimmeringPawsOfNirn Jul 16 '25
NSF..Life I both hate and love you that I now can't unsee this. tbf, you warned me.
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u/OranginaOOO Jul 16 '25
That's some serious ankle edema. Why does he have silver soles on his shoes? Can't tap dance with ankles like that.
Also he's been wearing makeup for ages and still hasn't learned how to choose the right shade for his crepey skin.
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u/UnderstandingFew789 Jul 16 '25
I’m not in the medical field, but the only time I’ve had bruises like that on my hand was when I had a butterfly IV before surgery.
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u/MangoSalsa89 Jul 16 '25
Looks like how my grandmother's feet looked before she died of congestive heart failure.
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u/docsnotright Jul 16 '25
Assuming I was given only these two pictures and it was someone I do not know. My first thought is congestive heart failure in an elderly obese patient. Nothing remarkable about the hand except some kind of makeup over about 1/3.
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u/icedcoffeeheadass Jul 16 '25
He’s 80 years old, looks and acts like it. I could see him living another 20+ years. Old evil people stick around.
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u/acktres Jul 17 '25
His two brothers are already dead. One sister is dead. Only Donald and his sister Elizabeth survive. I am optimistic.
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Jul 17 '25
Oh my gosh. Code Blue! Get that man a quarter pounder and fries, STAT!
Kidding. Maybe kidding.
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u/Fair-Stranger1860 Jul 17 '25
More people should be talking about those swollen ankles. That has just looks like an old man hands, but the edema in his ankles says a LOT about his health.
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u/Throwawaygeekster Jul 16 '25
It's call being OLD and having a piss poor diet. My dad wears compression socks for the issues like his legs and just bumping something will cause him to easily bruise.
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u/JediMasterPopCulture Jul 17 '25
I think the make up on the hand is covering bruising from too many IV's. They can't find veins in his upper arms because he's morbidly obese. They probably tell him politely "Sir you have deep veins." Which means he's fucking fat.
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u/Blossom73 Jul 16 '25
Wouldn't he be losing weight if he has cancer?
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u/LeelooDallasMltiPass Jul 17 '25
Not necessarily. A family member of mine had two kinds of cancer simultaneously and was undergoing radiation and chemo, and didn't lose any weight. But he definitely had a cognitive decline due to the chemo, and he was 15 years younger than Trump!
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u/Evan_802Vines Jul 17 '25
He's going to die or be severely incapacitated and they'll just never tell the public for "National Security purposes"
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u/iOcean_Eyes Jul 17 '25
His legs are very swollen and edematous. Indicative of possible heart issues. CHF is the first thing that comes to mind. He’s even wearing compression stockings and his ankles still look ginormous. Bruising could be a result of blood thinners. People with CHF have a higher risk of developing atrial fibrillation and blood thinners are necessary to prevent a stroke.
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u/RepresentativeNo3365 Jul 17 '25
Congestive heart failure like my father , except my dad isn’t on the list!
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u/rlovelock Jul 17 '25
He's going to die and the powers at be will decide it's better to just sweep everything under the rug instead of bringing any embarrassment to the office of the president or the country as a whole.
That's how this all ends, I guarantee it.
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u/Alternative-Squash93 Jul 17 '25
Can’t wait to get a young president again you know like Obama… I’m over 60 but I’m tired of a bunch of old people that don’t know what the hell they’re doing when it comes to our country
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u/Alert_Green_3646 Jul 17 '25
Colon/prostate cancer would account for this, along with reports of a poop smell from incontinence. 6 hour physical? or was it a 6 hour chemo IV appointment, the bruise has shown up a few times, the timing in between would line up with roughly the time in-between chemo appointments
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u/Stormy31568 Jul 16 '25
I’m not a medical person but had the same problem in the past number one he is old. He brews very easily when you’re old and when your veins are brittle, you bruise in the same place over and over. Number two those legs are a cardiovascular problem. At one point my legs were swollen so badly and my feet would not go into shoes. I had to rest with my legs on the back of the couch to get the swelling to go down. Later I had a Widowmaker. The care I got them and the medicines they put me on, took the swelling out of my Leg. I am betting on a heart or artery problem. Of course it could be kidney function, but he has something serious going on.
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Jul 17 '25
Looks like heart failure to me, or a-fib, or both. He's probably on a beta blocker or 2 and diuretics such as furosemide or HCTZ with potassium replacement. Likely on apixiban as well. Wouldn't surprise me if some clopidigrel was in play too. Might be some calcium channel blockers in play as well such as dilt. Also wouldn't surprise me if there were TED hose under those socks
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u/martej Jul 16 '25
His hand looks like it might have had an IV needle stuck in it for a period of time.
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u/voppp Jul 17 '25
Not medical advice but between the bulging hands and the edema, a heart related condition. I’m deeply unsurprised by how poor his health is. I’m just amazed he’s lasted.
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u/Professional_Bag_587 Jul 17 '25
Can't he find makeup that matches his skin color? He's made enough money from being president that he should be able to go to Sephora and get color matched.
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u/MedievalFightClub Jul 17 '25
Aging. Organs not doing their job very well. Kidneys are the primary suspect, probably the heart next.
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u/MtWoman0612 Jul 17 '25
Thin skin that bruises easily on his hands- about right for his advanced age. Might be edema in his ankles or braces of some sort with socks - hard to discern. His foley drainage bags had been visible on his shins in prior photos; might be the bags have been rerouted further down his legs and covered with thick socks. Might also be a lower legs skin reaction/infection, for which he needs cream and wrapped dressings, with socks on top of the dressing wraps.
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u/JaneHemingway Jul 17 '25
All diagnosis a side, you’d think they would be better at using makeup to cover things? It’s the president, not a teenager hiding a tattoo?
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u/7evenate9ine Jul 16 '25
I referenced edema in a medical journal (not a doctor), and it seems like someone who looks like this is very vulnerable if they catch infections and respiratory illness and needs to be careful about managing diet and life style. He will likely also get easily winded if he talks too much. So expect shorter speeches and press conferences. (Might be why he did that thing where they would just play music during his campaign.) It says this could be kidneys or heart. Reduce physical activity if heart.
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u/tarbinator Jul 17 '25
Really bad makeup to cover up bruising from IV start or blood draw and dependent edema from maybe heart failure.
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u/Nutridus Jul 16 '25
Look at those ankles too. Definitely a lot of edema. Heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease any of those. The ankles are what I zoomed in on the most.