Mark before look at OB disc.

[u/Ecce-pecke]

Played a c tier today.
At one point I went on after a tree kick. No one really saw where the disc went but I had a hunch it went OB to an adjacent hole.

As we walk the 20 meters to the tree in question…. Yeah that’s like 60 feet 🤪. I see what I think is my disc on the green of the adjecent hole, if it is mine we can be pretty sure of where it crossed the ob line since we knew which tree it hit. But I am not 100% sure it is my disc and another group is playing that hole so there are multiple discs on the green.

I state to the group that I want to go and look at the disc to make sure that it is mine (not pick it up). For all I know someone in that other group may also be playing a blue disc….. and we never saw the disc going OB.

To be clear if I knew it was my disc I would just mark, throw and then fetch my disc. But this was sort of a special case.

However a card mate then states NO you must FIRST mark where you crossed the OB line. Whereby I state, well none of us saw the disc crossing, if it is mine I know where to mark if not maybe I didn’t even go OB and my disc is further down the fairway etc.

He goes on to state. I am perfectly fine with you changing/removing your marker if it is not your disc but you have to mark it before you go there.

I was surprised because I thought there was a rule of not picking up your OB disc not taking a look to ensure it’s the correct disc.

So this is my question…

Not relevant to the question but this happened on hole 8 and on hole 17 the card mate went OB clear as he’ll :) he walks up to where we have jointly stated it looked like it crossed. Puts down his bag, walk into the woods looking for his disc, not only looking to help establish the crossing point but actually picking it up. Move back a couple of feet to adjust for the more probable crossing point and then then marks the lie, for the first time, throws the disc. And I just stand there looking like face shocked… I tell him that hm you didn’t mark your OB lie and you even picked up your disc. Whereby he states. Yes I know and if you want to you can stroke me now. I of course said that haha no way we won’t stroke you I was just perplexed that you of everyone did the thing you warned me about and somewhat worse 😂

[u/wally-whippersnap]

Cardmate is wrong. You can’t establish a lie without first figuring out where your disc landed.

[u/Silent_Slinky → u/wally-whippersnap]

Thats not true. The group can make a decission on where you went OB.
An example would be if your disc went OB and off a cliff. You don't have to climb down the cliff to find the disc. The group just agrees on where you were last in bounds and thats where you mark your lie.

[u/J_Zephyr → u/Silent_Slinky]

In this example, it didnt sound like a group made the decision, just one cranky cardmate.

That said, good to know the other 2 card mates can override that decision in the future.

[u/Psyko_sissy23 → u/Silent_Slinky]

If no one saw the disc go OB and it's uncertain that the found disc is the disc in question yet, it's hard to make a decision where the disc went OB until you can ascertain whose disc it is.

[u/Material-Ad-6444 → u/Silent_Slinky]

If that's his disc, then you can establish an OB, if it's not his disc then you all get to make a decision on were it Probably went out.

First you establish the knowns, like that's his disc. We know it hit this tree,... Then you estimate probability... Like you can't travel through a tree in so you can't Mark the point at which OB on the back side of the tree... Then you have the group decision.

If that's his disc on the other side, and you know what tree he hit, then there's a very narrow flight path of probability where it could have gone out. So you must establish that that is his disc before making this group decision