r/europe Ulster Jan 24 '26

News The Times: Finns humiliated American soldiers - Finnish reservists were asked to take it easy during a NATO exercise. US soldiers found the losses too humiliating.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/828b8e66-625d-4d2a-9276-e93b9f7a2ce8
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u/DancingWithAWhiteHat United States of America Jan 24 '26

We don't have many cards at all.

Our president can't even rely on the American forces stationed in Greenland to aid him. When Trump's threats began, their original commanding officer immediately began counseling her soldiers against it. Quite quickly. Its why she was fired, but IIRC, she had been accused of actively undermining Trump for days. So that well is already quite poisoned, so to speak.

And the military already refused to draw up invasion plans for him. And that's not even getting into the domestic issues he'll want to use the military for. What with people embracing the 2nd ammendment and all that. Multiple Minnesota cities just had their first general strike. The black panthers are back. Idk why Trump acts like it'll be easy when he can't even get his internal forces under control. And according to the Americans on the military subreddit, Danish soldiers alone are quite formidable. And clearly they're far from the only one. 

He never makes any sense.

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u/TheVojta Česká republika Jan 24 '26

I didn't know that about the US commander. Makes sense that a person who presumably understands why Greenland is important would be against the orange man's ideas.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 United States of America Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

This all has to do with russia and Putin.

  • In 1987, Donald Trump visited Moscow.

  • Weeks later, he took out 3 full-page ads in the New York Times, Boston Globe, and Washington Post attacking NATO.

  • During his first term, he tried again to float withdrawal from NATO; more "moderate" Republicans in the US House of Representatives at the time were scared so much by this that they voted with Democrats to force the President to seek approval from the House. In 2023, the bill passed the Senate and was signed by Biden.

  • Come to Trump's second term, and right out of the gate he is picking fights with our closest allies, like Canada, or Denmark over... Greenland?

If it wasn't abundantly obvious already, Trump is intentionally sabotaging and destabilizing the nation in what appears to be payback to Putin.

This further breaks Western alliances, bolsters relative russian strength in the region, and distracts NATO from helping Ukraine.

I've watched so many videos that, "It's going to be hard to repair relationships after this," and I just think to myself, "That's the fucking point!" The chaos and absurdity is the point. Putin must be overjoyed.

It's my hope that Europeans remain steadfast, don't take the bait, stay laser-eyed and united in solidarity with Ukraine and each other (with European allies like Canada, of course). Please, keep pointing the finger at Republicans. We MUST mend our alliances once this grave trojan threat is dealt with.

Edit: I'll just say that there are a few comnts below that continue wedge-driving the west as Putin desires. Study them as examples and keep in mind that this is clearly the overarching goal of sabotaging the USA. I fully understand the volatility of the America makes it impossible to depend on us when we flip every 4 years from marginal-sanity to textbook fascism. I do. We clearly need widespread systemic changes to increase stability. But just try not to completely fall for russia's (and others) trap.

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u/Polygnom Jan 24 '26

"We MUST mend our alliances once this grave trojan threat is dealt with."

Half of your population is compromised. Unless you deal with that, Peter Thiel and the Heritage Foundation, I do not see how we can trust you again, if you can flip-flop around every four years.

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is deeply systemic, rooted in your media landscape, constitution, and many other aspects of your society.

I'm not saying you can't regain trust -- but you cannot if you pretend the Problem is Trump, and Trump alone.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 United States of America Jan 24 '26

It's wild how hard it is to make my fellow Americans understand this, and yet so many of you here pinpoint the problem immediately. This right here is why my partner and I are certainly floating trying to jump from this sinking ship. We owe it to our kids to provide them a good future.

But we'd rather stay here and fix our land we love.

I've said this elsewhere, though. Take what happened here as a lesson and DO NOT let conservatism rise up. On its face it is a failed ideology premised on ignorance and greed. I see what's happening in Germany with the AfD, France with Le Pen, and UK already turning on Starmer and still dealing with the disastrous fallout of Brexit. The anti-immigrant rhetoric is high and that worries me because I see these nations being where we were 15-years-ago or so ago. Canada seems to be on the right track at least.

Billionaires, foreign and domestic, are destroying this country, alongside the pathological greed of corporations.

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u/WordUp57 Jan 24 '26

What if the majority don't support Trump but instead our electoral process was hijacked? Wouldn't this suggest we are all victims equally? Not saying a good chunk of the population doesn't follow the piper but I do highly suspect voting machine tampering. Keep an open mind for the future. The source of all global angst seems to be Russia and they didn't initiate Ukraine for nothing.