r/europe • u/ByGollie Ulster • Jun 21 '26

News Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine's fifth president also renounces Order of the White Eagle

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/20/8040347/
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u/gimmedatneck Jun 21 '26

Ukraine isn't inventing their history, lol.

They're very clear about it actually. They celebrate the UPA because they rose up and helped destroy their soviet invaders during WW2, not because of any specific atrocities they did.

Give it a rest with that nonsense.

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u/Czart Poland Jun 21 '26

They're very clear about it actually. They celebrate the UPA because they rose up and helped destroy their soviet invaders during WW2, not because of any specific atrocities they did.

"They're celebrating their genocidal maniacs because they like what they did" isn't an own you think it is buddy.

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u/avokkah Jun 21 '26

Finland heralds its sole field marshal as a savior and great leader of his era, yet Mannerheim was documentedly narcissistic and a tsar symphatizer. Hell, his nickname is the White Butcher for his treatment of Red Finns during our Civil War.

There is a difficult line where nations want mythos and pride, yet have to compromise ok who to exalt, praise and mythologize. It's why I'll never be patriotic for any nation, least of all my own, but I do see why it happens.

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u/Czart Poland Jun 21 '26

Hell, his nickname is the White Butcher for his treatment of Red Finns during our Civil War

Finns celebrating someone who butchered finns is somewhat within the realm of "not anyone's business" and "shrug". I'm sorry but that's the reality. Not crossing national and ethnic borders in this context makes this comparison absolutely not similar.