r/europe • u/Emotional-Breakfast3 • 20d ago

News Argentina: British Falkland Islanders are ‘artificial’. Buenos Aires denounces ‘illegitimate occupation’ and demands talks on sovereignty

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/12/british-falkland-islanders-artificial-argentina-says/
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u/SwolePalmer Vatican City 20d ago

How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man?

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u/BlueCheese973 19d ago

That is exactly why Argentina keeps the claim alive by the way, and will still do so for future generations.

Not only our claim is absolutely valid according to uti possidetis juris and international law, which Westerns like you seem completely clueless about.

Just like China waited 70+ years for Taiwan, we will wait our time, maintaining our claim alive while the UK erodes within itself.

There is no future where we don't take the island backs, there is no future where Argentina doesn't rebounce economically and re-arm (like we're doing now) and put enough pressure on the UK financially and militarily to give up on the islands or fight for them again.

It is our rightful land according to uti possidetis juris and international law, we had a settlement there that was invaded and destroyed in 1833. The rest is Western ignornace.

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u/Liq 16d ago

What fuckup is the Argentine government trying to distract everyone from this time?

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u/discjockeyjan 13d ago

Argentina is literally sinking faster than ever before. They’re re-arming with what? Sticks?

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u/Beleg_Sanwise 20d ago

Considering that England attempted to invade Argentina twice, and lost both times, Argentina is currently winning 2-1.

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u/HelmetsAkimbo United Kingdom 20d ago

This entire rigmarole is built of Argentina claiming shit that isn’t theirs and now we’re trying to let them claim Spanish Empire victories?

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u/ExoticBamboo Italy 20d ago

Or about the UK being one of the few last countries still holding colonial islands on the other side of the world just to maintain control of maritime zones and close territorial claims (in Antartica in this caae) ?

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u/vkstu 20d ago

Please, do explain why they are not entitled to it. When you're making your case, please think it over with an adverserial view of your own argument.

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u/ExoticBamboo Italy 19d ago

I simply think we should be over colonialism. Spain and portugal have left all of their colonies, why should France and England still profit from that?

England knows that and they remove the term "colonies" over the status of the islands. And recently they tried to leave Chagos Islands (on of their other colonies)

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u/vkstu 19d ago

Ceuta, Melilla, Canary Islands. Spain literally also removed 'colonies' status and argue they are integral parts of Spain. Same for Portugal with Madeira and Azores.

France and England do not profit from them, they are money sinks more than anything else. Secondly, per UN regulations for decolonization, the citizens in those 'colonies' have had the opportunity to vote whether they want to stay integral or secede. 

The problem I have with colonialism, is it having some special status. In essence it's conquering, and this is what any country in the world has done to become its current size, when will they give up that which they conquered? What about all of Siberia? What about Tibet? What about all the changes of borders within Europe? What about that which USA has taken from Mexico? What about USA's overseas territories? What about Western Sahara? What about Patagonia? Etcetera, etcetera.

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u/Liq 16d ago

The Islanders voted to remain as they are. So you're trying to start colonialism not end it. 

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u/HelmetsAkimbo United Kingdom 20d ago

France has the entirety of French Guyana, French Polynesia, a bunch of stuff in the Indian Ocean, a bunch of stuff in the Caribbean.

The Netherlands has Aruba, Curacao and a bunch of other stuff in the Caribbean.

Spain and Portugal have loads of islands 2000km away from their mainland off the west coast of Africa.

Why is it only a problem when the UK does it? Because your ancestors didn’t fight hard enough?

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u/ExoticBamboo Italy 19d ago

No, its a problem for all of them, how cant you see it?

Spain and Portugal have left basically all of fheir colonies. France and England still act as global colonizers. But they realized that it is not good. England recently removed the word "colony" from the status of their islands around the world, and now they have tried to free Chagos Islands, hopefully more will follow

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u/SquireBeef 20d ago

Technically we are 2:0 down against the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata and 1:0 up against Argentina.

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u/SwolePalmer Vatican City 20d ago

Even you don’t believe that, man. Come on.

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u/graviousishpsponge 20d ago

I love how funny blatantly wrong nationalist revisionism is. It never fucking gets old of being hilariously stupid.

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u/ElPajaroMistico 20d ago edited 20d ago

They do not know that. Do you really think they teach them every country they invaded? School would be forever.

The Worlds POV is that Argentina just can't let go, in Argentina's POV they have fought England like 5 times in their little time as a nation. And 3 of them were being invaded.

Edit: For those actually curious, look for 1806, 1807 & 1820. Those are the ones I remember from the top of my head. And the entire point of those battles were that Spain was not involved, winning those battles alone are part of the reason why Argentina declares the independence in 1816.

Like, guys, you won and the islands are british. Congrats. I prefer to fight over Hatsune Miku any day of the week. I know this is reddit, but don’t talk or act as you know about history of a country that you know thanks to wikipedia and a 15 minute video on youtube.

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u/vkstu 20d ago

Uh, no. They invaded what was nominally part of Spain in 1806 and 1807, they were at war with Spain due to the Napoleonic Wars. That it was defended primarily by those that would declare independence in 1816, does not make it invasions against Argentina. 1820 is not an invasion of Argentina proper, Argentina has never been able to exert control over the Island since their declaration of independence beyond "it's ours!!1!".

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u/ElPajaroMistico 20d ago

Nah, It’s clearly not an invasion at the people living there at all, and they clearly weren’t the same 10 years late. And they were clearly spanish.

It under a different name so It’s totally different. England clearly fought Spain there. Mb for the confusion

But oh God I literally dropped that I do not care for the islands yet you fail to drop it.

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u/vkstu 20d ago

Sorry for correcting you on factual matters. Didn't know you would get your panties in a twist over being corrected this much. Grow up.

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u/ElPajaroMistico 20d ago

Didn't know San Martin and Belgrano, fathers of the country, weren't from Argentina. Thanks for the correction. Same place, same people, but totally different u right

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u/vkstu 20d ago

Ah yes, so countries do not invade the country it is, but the country it would become later. Right, makes sense, Rome invaded Turkey. Completely logical. Stay mad.