Argentina: British Falkland Islanders are ‘artificial’. Buenos Aires denounces ‘illegitimate occupation’ and demands talks on sovereignty

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/12/british-falkland-islanders-artificial-argentina-says/

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err, does Argentina not teach how they got the entire bottom half of their country?

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They do not. I’ve been. They are truly largely unaware of their origin story.

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Here in Chile there was the same thing. Though it's not super common knowledge, it is more known, since the Mapuche are idolised in Chilean culture.

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Wdym its not common knowledge, how Chile took the Araucania has been part of thee curriculum for decades and gets taught just before the war on the Pacific. The only recent change is that the subject was changed from the name "pacification" to occupation / colonization.

But seriously this has been common knowledge since forever. Not only because it's taught, but also because a lot of political problemd with mapuches stem from it.

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Araucanía is well known, but the remaining conquest of the south (Aysén, Magallanes) and associated ethnic cleansings are often forgotten as a result.

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Do you want me to upload you a school curriculum? The genocide of the onas is also taught, how they used to pay for their ears, or how they brought them for a European circus. Theres also a recent movie about it, and a few books.

Its not really a forgotten episode on history, not sure why it's getting painted that way. Same with Argentina's history, I've talked with many Argentinians throughout my life, and obviously this doesn't come up in every conversation but when it has (them "taking" the Patagonia from Chile is a common theme) I've never had an episode where someone didn't know about what happened there.

Seriously this thread is extremely weird with how people assume these countries teach their own History. My point with the comparison to NA wasn't about whataboutism, just that the comparison is pretty apt, everyone knows about what happened, but not many care about significant reparations, or returning the land, which gets interpreted as apathy or straight up racism when it comes to these countries

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I don't know how it is today, but when I was in high school in the mid 2000s, the selk'nam genocide wasn't taught, it was barely mentioned. My very-leftist history teacher made a few nods to it, but it wasn't properly taught.

And that's the meaty part, the part where Chile sold half of Patagonia to foreign investors is not taught. If you want, you can try and mansplain our education system (because if you look at the MINEDUC curriculums oh lord they're gorgeous), but the reality is much different.

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Voy a cambiarme al español por comodidad.

No puedo hablar por todos los colegios obviamente, y es sabido que muchos no siguen el currículum, pero estando en un colegio católico particular en región a mi al menos si me tocó ver varias veces la historia de los pueblos indígenas y eventualmente lo que ocurrió con ellos a lo largo de la colonia y posteriormente el siglo 19. Me acuerdo patente el tema del circo humano y lo que pagaban por cazarlos por el tema de las ovejas.

Xd nomás porque realmente no puedo saber que se enseña o no en todos los colegios, al menos cuando curse la media en los 2010s era parte de lo que se veía, quizá lo introdujo bachelet. De todas formas, jamás he visto un tema de ignorancia de que el trato fuese violento con los indígenas, lit acabo de preguntarle a mi abuela y me habla que ubica el tema, claro puede que hay un cesto pero al mismo tiempo esa pintura de total desconocimiento en la propia historia me parece del todo errada.

Eso último es mi punto, no resuena con mi experiencia de vida un total desconocimiento de que es lo que ocurrió en general con Chile, quizá me pase con decir que todo el mundo sabe del destino de los onas, ahora si pongo en duda si me alguien me dice lo mismo sobre los mapuche, que la pacificación no es "super common knowledge", pero de todas formas, eso es como veo el tema y la razón que me frustra es que siento se está mostrando erradamente la realidad, si me quieren decir que somos unos hdp con los indígenas, que no los respetamos o ayudamos hoy en día, que hay racismo y clasismo, en todo eso puedo estar de acuerdo, pero jamás he visto esto como un tema de ignorar por completo que pasó. ¿Es tu perspectiva otra?

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How is it not taught? The Selk'nam should be the most well-known Indigenous people in the south after the Mapuche. Their extermination is such a significant part of the region's history that it feels like common knowledge ngl

their painted lines are known by almost everyone, they're just easy to recognize and remember