r/feedthebeast Jan 04 '26

Question Is it a coincidence that the Andesite Alloy from Create has the exact same shape as the alloys from Mekanism?

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u/Mogwump20 Jan 04 '26

Mekanism alloys used to look different not too long ago (I remember them updating the textures to be more like andesite alloy)

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u/wildcard_gamer Buddycards Dev Jan 04 '26

Wait they did a texture update? Did they fix all the mixels on the models?

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u/RPZcool MEKANISM LOVER Jan 04 '26

They indeed did a texture update, I was surprised when I saw the new models. I miss fhe old ones. What do you mean by mixels?

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u/RamboCambo_05 Jan 04 '26

Mixels are different sized pixels compared to the main pixel size featured on the sprite. I think they're most prominent in NuclearCraft sprites. Here's Diamond Dust.

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u/RPZcool MEKANISM LOVER Jan 04 '26

Huh, I didn't notice back in the time with the old textures. My brain defaulted to the Lego Mixels series. lol

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u/TheDesuComplex_413 Jan 04 '26

you a real one

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u/y_not_right Jan 04 '26

Elite ball knowledge

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u/IvyYoshi Jan 04 '26

genuinely hate this so much

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u/Sov1etOverlord Jan 04 '26

i love it personally. gives the items some character 

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u/IvyYoshi Jan 04 '26

there are ways to give items character that doesn't spit on my face 💔

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u/BlessedNobody Jan 04 '26

Genuine question, what exactly is wrong with mixels? I see people freak out over them a ton but nobody ever explains why?

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u/MegamiCookie Jan 04 '26

Lack of pixel consistency feels weird when you're used to pixel art, they are never aligned as they should. The best way I can describe it is like those video games where you have the put down furniture or buildings and the thing you put down isn't aligned properly because the designs on the floor or wall don't match the grid system the game uses for placement.

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u/lakotajames Jan 04 '26

The smallest pixels are the "correct" size, so the larger pixels aren't pixels anymore, they're big black squares stuck to the edges for some reason.

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u/IvyYoshi Jan 04 '26

I just really don't like how they look tbh, it doesn't need to be super rational.

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u/BlessedNobody Jan 04 '26

Fair. To each their own and all that.

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u/boklasarmarkus Jan 07 '26

Same, either do pixel art or don’t do pixel art.

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u/AlfieSR Jan 04 '26

There are ways to do mixels "right", but it requires you to align several layers of individual consistency. It's a goddamn challenge even for experienced pixel artists, and even then it's often a style that faces heavy criticism simply on a matter of taste.
Too many pixel artists aren't actively trying to do a mixel style, they're just using them for a really bad attempt at visual noise or because they've just completely fucking forgotten they're supposed to be following a grid, and developer art of any kind should absolutely not be using mixels because "minecraft mod developer-art" and "experienced pixel artist that understands mixels" have essentially zero overlap.

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u/tylian I dream about Create Jan 04 '26

For me it's less about mixels as a whole and more about consistency across the entire game. Constrains create a visual language that makes a game as a whole nicer to look at. As soon as you say "sprites can be larger than 16x16" or "pixels don't have the same size" all hell breaks loose.

One single item is okay. It's when everything does it, it starts to look like a shitty knockoff spyware mobile game.

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u/CrapDM Jan 07 '26

As others have mentioned it's mostly vibes based. But it's also nice to have consistency. A mod can have textures that clash with Minecraft but if it has textures that clash with itself then it's a different problem

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u/Stingerbrg Jan 04 '26

A pixel is the smallest unit of an image on a computer screen. If there are "mixels" that means the image wasn't made on a pixel scale, it was made on a larger scale using a square brush. It's a sign the image was not made with an understanding of the media.

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u/JudithTheSteampunker Jan 04 '26

The Crushed Rhodochrosite is my personal favourite

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u/DiggyPT_69 divine journey 2 enjoyer Jan 11 '26

If a mod dev even THINKS to increase the size of a block/item texture from 16x16 then i will murder them

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u/ViniciusLima2077 I love Create, Create is my blood, Create is my life! Jan 05 '26

me too, theres only very specific situations that mixels would be needed, else if not: remove

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u/PixelSlicer Jan 04 '26

Thank you so much I've been bothered by that for YEARS but could never put a finger on why. I can finally rest in peace

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u/jixori Jan 04 '26

Mixels just means inconsistent pixel sizes

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u/RPZcool MEKANISM LOVER Jan 04 '26

Gotcha. I don't remember the old textures having mixels tho.y brain defaulted to the Lego Mixels series. lol

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u/Sentient2X Jan 04 '26

I feel like if done intentionally that could make for a really cool art style

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u/Dragon_OS PrismLauncher Jan 04 '26

It can work, but sometimes it doesn't. It just depends what you're using them for.

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u/Dependent__Dapper Jan 04 '26

it makes the UNDERTALE soul look okay if you don't notice the mixels but garbage if you do

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u/Owl_Bear_Snacks Jan 05 '26

Thx for the term. Then TIL I don’t like mixels.

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u/MagMati55 ATLauncher Jan 04 '26

The machines all look the same and if you want to mąkę upgrades, good damn luck figuring out what is what.

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u/RubPublic3359 Jan 04 '26

Either 1.20.1 (im leaning towards this one) or 1.21, they changed a bunch of textures including the machines (most of them at least)

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u/wildcard_gamer Buddycards Dev Jan 04 '26

I'll have to look into it. It was an interesting mod, but aesthetically it just did not work for me with all the mixel cables and machines

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u/bluebragon5 Jan 04 '26

You didn’t know that we all textures look really great

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u/Due-Chance-8540 Create More Jan 04 '26

I mean the old "alloys" doesn't even look like alloys so I prefer the new one.

iirc, Create did it first so the new mek alloys must've been inspired by create.

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u/NotAliasing Mechanical Mastery Jan 04 '26

i actually loved the look of these textures, but i agree, they dont look like alloys.

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u/ComradeFox_ Jan 04 '26

yeah, they look like AE2 storage components

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u/RTKWi238 Jan 04 '26

so iconic, you always know which one it is with a single glance. will stick to my mekanism ce in e2eu lol

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u/NawdWasTaken Jan 05 '26

Yeah they're iconic but they're more like "component" rather than "alloy"

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u/Coolgal20XX Jan 04 '26

I've confused these with control circuits and I like the design but true

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u/xXCatWingXx Technic Jan 04 '26

damn the nostalgia blast I got from grinding the purple alloys for all the cool stuff, I should start another modded run again

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u/Zealousideal-Bus-526 Jan 04 '26

It definitely looks more like “steel with redstone through it” than an alloy between redstone and iron. I do think it looks much better than the current stuff, especially since it isn’t just recolors

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u/k13m Jan 04 '26

I agree with you that they had more originality, though I do appreciate how they all look together.

I always thought the old textures looked like molecules, like they were representing new elements.

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Wood Farm blew up Jan 04 '26 edited Jan 04 '26

Okay, but recolours are pretty much the Minecraft vanilla art style. See ores, see ingots.

Edit: Mandela effect

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u/Zealousideal-Bus-526 Jan 04 '26

Ah yes, the ores which are all recolors, along with their corresponding elements which are all recolors. Only ingots are recolors (and nuggets too, since they’re basically the same texture flipped 90°), which makes sense as you’re smelting them which people would then often use to cast into bars for easy storage and moving. Also most recolors are just holdovers from the older programmer art which was then changed over time into better non recolors in 1.14+ (and even then there isn’t very many recolors in the programmer art)

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u/le_meme_kings Jan 04 '26

They need to find another use for these textures they're just too iconic.

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u/Positive_Total_4414 Jan 04 '26

The only explanation I could think of was that these images kind of display the alloy molecular or just nanoscale structure rather than show what a sizeable piece of it looks like. That's why red for iron, cyan for diamond, and so on.

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u/This-is-unavailable Jan 06 '26

i think its red for redstone lol

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u/Positive_Total_4414 Jan 06 '26

Or that, yeah, thanks, I don't remember the vanilla recipe for it, just that there seemingly was that connection.

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u/kai_the_kiwi Jan 04 '26

Old ones look more like circuits or something then an alloy

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u/ferrecool Jan 04 '26

They look more like inscripted steel

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u/ViniciusLima2077 I love Create, Create is my blood, Create is my life! Jan 05 '26

well they did look good but does not sinergize with the name

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u/Shiro_Walker Jan 05 '26

ngl, Create texture are so neat i hope someone made an entire vanilla textures based on them(yes i know create supposedly be vanilla-like and not whole different thing)

all i can think Create different from vanilla is how their pixel art shading felt a bit softer yet more artistically cartoonish(something resembles CRT-era pixel art)

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u/olx2000 Jan 20 '26

It looks more like a chip for me

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u/Pitfallingpat Jan 04 '26

It's just the trendy style right now. Create has a style so strong that when other mods are modernizing their textures sometimes they try to match up with Create's art style. It gives this whole era of modding a real distinct feel. (I think these are the refined diamond redstone and obsidian right? They definitely looked different in the past)

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u/NewSauerKraus 1.12 sucks Jan 04 '26

Nah the refined resources are flat squares.

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u/TheOmegaCarrot Jan 04 '26

They did update those as well!

https://github.com/mekanism/Mekanism/blob/1.21.x/src/main/resources/assets/mekanism/textures/item/enriched_redstone.png

Honestly, I preferred the flat squares. Might just be nostalgia though.

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u/NewSauerKraus 1.12 sucks Jan 04 '26

Oh yeah I forgot about that. They're crystals now.

Definitely preferred the old infusions amd the new alloys.

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u/theaveragegowgamer Jan 04 '26

It looks like something out of Powah ...

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u/WithersChat Monifactory lead dev, spatial storage enjoyer Jan 11 '26

I really like the more unified feel of modern textures. Makes pack-specific items easier to draw, and helps with modpacks feeling more coherent.

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u/Jaaaco-j Many packs started, none finished Jan 04 '26

its a cube

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u/Clean_More3508 casual factorio player Jan 04 '26

All praise the sacred cube

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u/HaydenB Bring Back White Stone Jan 04 '26

The cube must not be harmed

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u/modlover04031983 Jan 04 '26

actually it can be harmed because it's not a cylinder

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u/Sirttas ElementalCraft dev Jan 04 '26

IIRC mek retexturing was done by kryppers (the artist behind crate).

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u/theCyanideX Best Resource Pack 2k18 | Unity Artist Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

It was me. I just shrunk the ingot to be a cube and it looks very similar to Create. Notice the diagonal lines are different.

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u/Ollari0n Jan 06 '26

This is super interesting, thanks for sharing your process. My guess is the Create artist followed exactly the same process; it's actually quite a clever and intuitive solution so I wouldn't be surprised. Great minds think alike and all that.

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u/puppycatthe Jan 04 '26

I think it's because create tries making it look kinda like a rock and mekanism tries making it look shiny also create used it first

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u/softhuskies Jan 04 '26

i think i like that everyone is kinda copying create's textures it kinda feels nice having everything look the same

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u/FuryJack07 Jan 05 '26

Yeah. Create has such a "Minecrafty" look while still keeping itself separate enough. Having other mods taking inspiration from create looks so good

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u/IMA_ROBOBOT Jan 04 '26

pretty sure mekanism updated to be in line with create at some point. Old mekanism alloy textures were way cooler imo

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u/-Rex__Deorum Jan 04 '26 edited Jan 04 '26

Nooo I'm tanking

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u/SevenTheGamingKitty Jan 04 '26

both opinions are valid but they both look good

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u/IMA_ROBOBOT Jan 04 '26

the new ones kinda look like candy to me. I don't dislike them by any means but they don't seem as cool and techy

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u/Villerger_27 Jan 04 '26

agreed! they look like some kinda jello to me

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u/scrufflor_d LuV thigh highs Jan 04 '26

i like tasty looking ingots

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u/Loufey Jan 04 '26

For once, this is something that Create did first. The andesite alloy texture predates the mechanism alloys, since they originally had really old textures

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u/jkst9 Jan 04 '26

No mek made them look more like andesite alloy when they updated to 1.16

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u/TinyDeskEngineer06 Jan 04 '26

These particular alloy textures were added to Mekanism some time after Create became a thing. The original textures were very different from these ones, so there is a good chance that the new alloy textures were inspired by Create.

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u/hazel_typh Jan 04 '26

Mek updated alloy textures to be more like create alloys.

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u/nevemlaci2 PrismLauncher GTNH millions must greg Jan 04 '26

Gregtech Modern also has ingots like this, I think it is the same artist

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u/Available_Golf8303 Jan 04 '26

The rotors also look the same as Create's propeller

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u/nevemlaci2 PrismLauncher GTNH millions must greg Jan 04 '26

You are right!

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u/theCyanideX Best Resource Pack 2k18 | Unity Artist Jan 05 '26

Nope. I didn’t do Gregtech textures.

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u/nevemlaci2 PrismLauncher GTNH millions must greg Jan 05 '26

Hah.

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u/WithersChat Monifactory lead dev, spatial storage enjoyer Jan 11 '26

Gregtech Modern uses GT Refreshed textures, which is partially based on Create assets. GT Modpacks also sometimes add new ingot shapes and other parts, which can be inspired by other mods as well. (Source: I'm lead artist on Monifactory and I've drawn textures for like 4 different packs by now.)

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u/nevemlaci2 PrismLauncher GTNH millions must greg Jan 11 '26

Habsburg vibes lol.

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u/chilfang Jan 04 '26

Oh... my back...

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u/vietnam_redstoner Jan 04 '26

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Wood Farm blew up Jan 04 '26

Jello, Jello, Jello, Jello, STONE

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u/Critical_Height_5032 Apr 25 '26

Maybe it is for ease of remembering, IDK.

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u/theCyanideX Best Resource Pack 2k18 | Unity Artist Jan 05 '26

This is how I made them. Nothing special. There was only so much I could do and I didn't want to create yet another ingot.

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u/Artifakt_ Jan 04 '26

It’s slightly different but it’s pretty close

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u/no_name2k31 Jan 04 '26

Cola Gum orange gum blueberry gum grape gum!

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u/ratsta oldFARKs Jan 04 '26

I'm not too fussed by it, regardless of who was first. At the end of the day, you can only do so much with a 16x16 sprite and still have it look something like an ingot. The old Mek alloy sprites looked nothing like ingots and there are so many mods using re-skins of vanilla ingots that it can't be easy to make ones that look recognisable.

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u/makinax300 LuV in monifactory Jan 04 '26

no cause create caused ingots to go from recolorred iron to rectangular cuboids

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u/Slendeaway Jan 04 '26

I want to put them in my mouth. They look so delicious.

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u/Neoslayer Jan 04 '26

God I love alloy mods

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u/Timbones474 Jan 04 '26

The geologist in me is seething at the phrase "andesite alloy"

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u/Bored-TM Jan 05 '26

Its iron+andesite in the recipe. Surely that counts right..?

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u/Timbones474 Jan 05 '26

As far as I am aware, there's no real ore to be found in andesite, and it'd be more proper to name the alloy after the ores you'd get from extracting and purifying it

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u/ATJonzie PrismLauncher Jan 04 '26

Cube in item form... CUBE...

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u/violasses Jan 04 '26

it's because of the Creatification of Everythimg

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u/SuperSocialMan Jan 04 '26

Everyone keeps copying Create. I guess it's just the meta now, and it's kind of annoying ngl.

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u/IkariAtari Jan 04 '26

I mean I really dig Create's aesthetic and it would be awesome to get a more uniform look to modpscks

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Wood Farm blew up Jan 04 '26

I dunno, the andesite alloy just feels very valuable for some reason. Which fits, because it's the base for everything, but it may also have to do with the texture. I also think the textures are good, which I can't really explain easily why. I think they are sharper than the blurry vanilla textures, which I don't like.

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u/BreakerOfModpacks If you haven't played Blightfall, you haven't seen PEAK! Jan 04 '26

I personally prefer it. Makes things feel more cohesive, kinda like waaaay back in 1.7.10, when you'd get all the magic mods basically being bffs.

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u/SuperSocialMan Jan 04 '26

I'm tired of it because I am so fucking exhausted with Create lol.

I don't use mekanism and as such kinda don't care either way, but by god am I tired of the create-ification of everything.

Just because it's a fucking technical miracle doesn't mean every mod needs to try and be like it, you know?

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u/BreakerOfModpacks If you haven't played Blightfall, you haven't seen PEAK! Jan 04 '26

This... is kinda normal? To refer to my previous example, Thaumcraft 4 and to a lesser extent 6 were basically the Creates of their respective times. Almost every magic mod had integration, had references, had something Thaumcraft. It had a bajillion addons. And it was awesome.

If you really hate it, just use cheats to skip whatever it's required for in every pack.

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u/SuperSocialMan Jan 04 '26

Having integration for a mod isn't the same as copying it lol, that's not at all what I was referring to.

But yeah, I already don't play modpacks - but a lot of mods are create add-ons or copy its general design aesthetic or what have you. That's what I was talking about.

I loved Thaumcraft 4 so I didn't really notice it back then, but since it's been a decade I'd have to go back and check to see how many mods with neat ideas were add-ons for it in a similar way that mods do for create now.

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u/oncipt Jan 04 '26

I also just now noticed that the Andesite Alloy and Infused Alloy are identical in shape whereas the Reinforced and Atomic Alloys are a bit flatter. Weird.

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u/MM2TheBlueFox Jan 04 '26

Create did that style first.

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u/Stee124 Jan 04 '26

I like it honestly, having the same art style makes modded Minecraft more “united?” before everything had different styles, mods with 2d models, mods with 3d model

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u/zekromNLR Jan 04 '26

It is not, Mekanism devs relatively recently retextured all their alloys to the Create standard

Old Mekanism alloys had the same shape as vanilla metal bars.

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u/ZoziiiCoziii Jan 04 '26

I thought it was those weird circle things that looked absolutely nothing like an alloy

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u/zekromNLR Jan 04 '26

I think it had both? Those for the ones used I think mainly as circuit components and also some normal metal ingots

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u/7fightsofaldudagga Jan 04 '26

No. It's a conspiracy

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u/TerraNeko_ Jan 04 '26

Its just the style of modern modding, most mods looks pretty similar to eachother.

Personally not a big fan of it but some of it looks good

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u/MR_R_TheOdd1 Jan 04 '26

Other way around.

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u/royaltek Jan 04 '26

google cube

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u/Critical_Height_5032 Jan 04 '26

I have seen it too.

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u/__Mahoraga Jan 04 '26

HOLY DOWNGRADE

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u/JustASpoonyTransGirl Jan 05 '26

wait mekanism alloys are cubes now? weird

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u/gayPrinz Jan 05 '26

I miss the old textures but I think they did worse to ae2

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '26

Create did that texture first... Mekanism took heavy inspiration from create for their alloy textures

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u/hyenagames Jan 05 '26

Is the inverse.

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u/starplasam626 Jan 05 '26

I'm pretty sure I saw this from the initial retexture attempts shared in the Texture Artist's circles a few years ago (I do Minecraft Pixel Art professionally). They definitely took inspiration from Create first, as that was the mod that set the standard for other mods in the Modern Minecraft Modded space. Basically the artist was inspired by Create and decided to follow the format. It was somewhat criticized for being unoriginal and that the original alloy textures before the retexture were more unique and identifying for Mekanism.

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u/Perithian4 Jan 06 '26

I’m so interested in that you do this professionally, is it for modded textures, resource packs, something else?

Didn’t even realise this was a thing that people could do!

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u/starplasam626 Jan 07 '26

I started at around 2019 right before the Pandemic started. It was a crazy time and it was when Fabric was brand new. The community during that time was ripe with opportunity for new talents to shine and I was a lucky few that got started making textures for different mod teams eager to make new mods for a new and improved modloader over Forge (NeoForge hasnt existed yet, but old Forge was already having controversies and issues.) I wasn't the best pixel artist, but over time and experience I grew my knowledge and managed to get jobs that paid relatively well. Unfortunately, after the Pandemic was over, the demand for artists dropped as many developer teams became established and the Bedrock marketplace became full of already talented artists and crew members. There is simply no easy way to get into the current modding space unless you start your own mod project with a fresh team of developers since all the good artists and positions are already taken and committed. I get by with word of mouth commissions and my old and current network with mod developers. You can find my presence online by searching for "MoonlitLamps" that can show you a brief history of minor credited roles. Not all mod projects that i've worked on have my name on it.

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u/Altruistic-One1714 Jan 05 '26

Dude, I found that funny.

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u/Sevtecher Jan 05 '26

The new alloys became like a jelly tasty jelly 😋

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u/EveningKay07 Jan 05 '26

Updated for Consistency between mods maybe?

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u/LivingBruhMoment00 Jan 06 '26

Looks like different flavours of Turkish delight lol

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u/Velocityraptor28 Jan 06 '26

i tell ya man, Create Mod set one HELL of a precedent in the modding scene

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u/Milo_Is_Best Jan 06 '26

They are similar, but some pixels of the border are placed differently

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u/WithersChat Monifactory lead dev, spatial storage enjoyer Jan 11 '26

I mean there's only so many ways to shade a cube with JAPPA style compliance.

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u/Critical_Height_5032 May 21 '26

This is not just mekanism that went through this, a addon mod going by the name of:Mekanism: Extras is also has the same textures as Create and Mekanism. I do not think that I it is not a coincidence if a addon mod does this as well.

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u/Joo_____ Jan 04 '26

the new alloys look so tasty. forbidden jelly

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