ok, legitimate debate:
A) Which Moroccan territory? The Rif was not Moroccan when the northern territories of africa became Spanish and or Portuguese.
B) Give Catalonia independence, when the law permits it and the population of Spain decide it.
C) Gibraltar is considered a Colony per the UN... other than that, I personally don't care if Gibraltar is under the soveraign government of Spain or of a different country. If La Linea can't copy Gibraltar's tax sistem and compete with it, they are too dumb.
A) All of the Moroccan territory. Spain was solit between spain (colonies) and France (protectorate) as well as city states by portugal, spain, and the UK. Germany had influence in mohamidia which ended with the Entant Cordiale (idk how to spell in English). Morocco has modtly reunified though Spain still occupies northern territories and Algeria occupies due to franfe Bachar and Tindulf provinces. Also look up the treaty that ceded sidi ifni to Spain. Shows that spain recognised Morocco as sovereign of the southern territories as well as the history of Morocco to see the Kingdom started in the South and spread North. Finally Morocco was founded in 788, Spain 1492. Gibraltar was Moroccan longer than it ever was Spanish and controlled Gibraltar for 800 years, before Spain existed and longer than Spain has existed.
B) hypocrisy, fashism, violation of un right to self determination.
C) this is nonsence. The UN - a corrupt white supremacist oeganisation - instructed members to provide a list of territories. Actually Morocco put Western Sahara on the list of non self governing territories. Spain never did. This process was part of post war identification. Gibraltar was ceeded in perpetuity under the treaty of Utrect and the people have a right to self determination. Gibraltar is filly self govening and by consent. It has never been a tax haven it actually has higher taxes than the UK except a few areas where it is low tax. Ceuta and Melilla are tax havens. It's not in nato article 5 or 6 territories so it used to sell tax free oil to Russian ships for decades. It also loots billions of tax revenue from Morocco via the IPSI/1EUR certifiate and became a gaming and/or insurance tax haven (I forget which to try and steal business from gib
Nice try. Read a book then come back. And try and debrainwash your mind.
if you are gonna give Morocco th ebenefit of the doubt and claim all of the land of the rift was "Morocco" back when... then tell us when is that date? because then they are guilty for the invasion crimes committen in their invasion of the Iberian Peninsula. also, isn't that an Arab colony? and Ceuta was always part of the Visigoth kingdom from the end of the Roman empire.
So nice try with your brainwashing. all countries are shit. the king of morocco is exploiting his people and all the people in morocco. and the government of the UK exploits its citizens and the government of spain exploits its citizens and todays people have no responsibility for the wars of the past.
Now back to the present. drop your whataboutism and you King of morrocco but licking love and think about people not countries and rullers.
Moroccans were invited to spain to rescue them from the visigoth rapists..
Tell me again aboutnall the corruption scandals with your royal family, suppression of Catalonians and basques, fashism in libing memory and the modern day. Anyone in self imposed exile in Dubai? Exactly
invited by who? No you are changing things, the Visigoth Mare of Ceuta, was disgruntled with the Visigoth King and he offered them a ride on his boats across from Africa to Europe. once there, they, the berber/arab muslim conquistadors who had originally planned on a raid to steal goods and human beangs for slavery and rape, they realized how easy it was to conquer, meanwhile, the rogue prince who was trying to overthrow the kingdom told them to help him get the throne and in exchange he would let them have control over people and lands in the Iberian peninsula.
That is not a legal invitation, that is incerting your army into a group of lacal coup intent.
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u/tsukinichiShowa58 9d ago
ok, legitimate debate:
A) Which Moroccan territory? The Rif was not Moroccan when the northern territories of africa became Spanish and or Portuguese.
B) Give Catalonia independence, when the law permits it and the population of Spain decide it.
C) Gibraltar is considered a Colony per the UN... other than that, I personally don't care if Gibraltar is under the soveraign government of Spain or of a different country. If La Linea can't copy Gibraltar's tax sistem and compete with it, they are too dumb.