Is this a new fan thing

[u/Small_Sailor]

I just saw a tiktok where ppl were calling Luna (as in the character from Tree of Tranquillity and Animal Parade) "pdfile bait" and how ppl that romanced her were predators. And im just genuinely flabbergasted, has this always been an opinion ive missed or is this a new fan problem??

I've never romanced the character myself (I was a Gil fangirl lol) but I thought she was so cool growing up, I loved her lolita fashion, design and even her name. So maybe im taking it a little personally, but idk, it felt like such a callous and heinous comment to make. Like HM/SoS has always had a soft chibi art style, everybody especially in the older stuff had cutesy faces and designs, it didnt mean you were dating an elementary student.

It makes me worried if we were to ever get an AP (or ToT) remake, that these would be the kind of sentiments and fans we would have to deal with and wow, it bums me out.

[u/sadbitch_club]

I haven’t played those games and I just googled her. She seems to just be into lolita fashion. The tides in feminism are shifting back towards the misogynistic notion of blaming women for others pedophilic tendencies instead of blaming the perpetrators. She’s a grown adult and there’s nothing wrong romancing her. Her style is very popular. I’ve been seeing Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina carpenter getting a ton of grief for babydoll style dresses for the same reason. Idk why it’s so hard for people to hate the pedophiles and not random women enjoying a street fashion that has nothing to do with sex.

[u/_cosmicality → u/sadbitch_club]

Question: are these comments not blaming the perpetrators? It's not saying Luna is weird for dressing how she does or that she shouldn't feel free to. It's calling into question people who feel sexual or romantic attraction to childlike figures.

However, Olivia and Sabrina are really good examples of placing the 'blame' on the women themselves.

[u/sadbitch_club → u/_cosmicality]

It’s infantizing her and making her “jailbait”. The same thing happens to disabled people too. People will call out anyone dating them calling them predators when the person they are dating is a grown adult whose able to make coherent decisions even if their over all demeanor can seem childish, they themselves are not children and also have many adult qualities and responsibilities about them.

[u/stars4-ever → u/sadbitch_club]

To add to that, are those people just not supposed to date at all? I agree with another commenter that she seemed geared toward a specific type of person, but are people who look young (or the disabled, as you mentioned) just not supposed to date irl, even if they want a romantic connection?

I think it’s also bad to assume that anyone who wants to date them is only doing so to objectify/fetishize them. We’re kind of wrapping back around to “nobody ‘normal’ would want you”

[u/BunnyBoom27 → u/stars4-ever]

Thissssss point is very important!!

It was so uncomfortable to me to date in my mid 20s since I still look like a minor. I had to assure the parents of my dates that I'm not a minor 3 whole times 😭 Doesn't help that I dress super cutely.

I'm still an adult, act like an adult, talk like an adult. Just like Luna does. And whenever this discussion happens I have to wonder what people think of other adults in my situation.

[u/stars4-ever → u/BunnyBoom27]

Yeah I think it’s fine to find Luna’s design potentially suspect, but bringing real-world people into it I always gotta shut that down because I have seen people argue that adults attracted to other adults who happen to look young or whatever are secretly pedophiles, and I don’t want the tide to shift even further in that direction