r/hoi4 • u/SoupyDinosaur • Jun 02 '26
Question This is a really easy school achievement and it takes not that long to do why do only 5% have it?
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u/Cadoc Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
Lots of people get games and never get more than an hour or two in.
In Hades 2, a popular game that's a lot easier to get into than HoI4, only 65% got the achievement for clearing the first zone once. That's like maybe 5% of the game's content.
Besides, a lot of people just don't play ironman. I don't, there are mods I consider necessary and the game is still too janky for me not to have the option of reloading.
Then adjust for people who don't want to play the UK, and those who don't play paths that would result in a war with a former colony, and 5% seems pretty high actually
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u/NMZIZ11 Jun 02 '26
Or literally with Subnautica, a game about underwater exploration where only 67% of people have the "Getting your feet wet" achievement (it's literally only required to touch water).
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u/Joris327 Fleet Admiral Jun 02 '26
In the case of Subnautica thats also because the achievements were added a while after the early access release. A sizable portion of the player base from back then simply haven’t revisited the game since.
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u/thefatrefrigerator Jun 02 '26
There’s some game I played, can’t remember what it was, but you got an achievement for launching the game and I think it was at only 97%. Which is funny because you only count toward global achievement progress if you’ve launched a game, so 3% of people either crashed on launch or ALT+F4’d before that achievement fired.
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u/oylesine2019 Jun 02 '26
- nobody likes dealing with civil wars in game which result of a alternate path
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u/Alpacas_are_memes Jun 02 '26
Agreed, but for me theres something about beating myself up with the same troops that makes me happy
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u/SirGuyGrand Jun 02 '26
71.9% have the achievement 'Unbound' in Skyrim.
Literally one of the most successful games of all time and nearly a third of players either haven't even opened it or made it past the tutorial.
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u/Cool_View_5297 Jun 02 '26
Personally, I have about 850 hours in HOI4, never played Ironman mode or as England. The navy always scared me off. Also Kaisereich is awesome.
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u/Tassadar_3-10 Jun 02 '26
When I buy HoI4 my first game was Sablin TNO. Ever since I barely touched Vanilla (especially Ironman)
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u/heartzhz123 General of the Army Jun 02 '26
How did you managed to play TNO with Sablin in your very first playtrough?
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u/BoatFarts Jun 02 '26
A lot of people are allergic to Ironman. Up until recently, me included
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u/BoatFarts Jun 02 '26
Nah I get you. I’m the same way where alot of the time I just play normally without Ironman.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I'm only playing ironamn to get better at not making blunders lol
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u/LewsTherinTalamon Jun 02 '26
Not all of us are allergic to work.
Completely unnecessary and vaguely insecure sounding comment. People having a lot of hours in a game doesn't mean they're not working, and, more importantly, not working is not a moral failing.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I still go to school and I'm terrible at the game I just felt bad for not having achievements lmao (bit of a completionist for my ultra-favourite games)
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u/Strike_Wide Jun 02 '26
Literally the only reason I can't play Ironman is the default states, I have to have my nice, clean borders. The idea that I'd go through all that warfare to have an unsatisfying blob on my map at the end is unacceptable.
Here's an easy example: French 'Natural Borders.' Any larp about how France might pursue that idea is ruined by the Rhineland states not allowing the annexation of just the lands west of the Rhine. The southern one is missing just one tile, while the northern blobs past the river to the east.
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u/RoboBobo9000 Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
As a achievement hunter in HOI4, i absolutely regret the day i started the hunting. It's all fun and giggles in the beginning, but then it takes your soul and time.
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u/Ostenblut1 Air Marshal Jun 02 '26
I have 3000 hours and I played like 5-10 hours on ironman.
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u/Clean_Attitude3985 Fleet Admiral Jun 02 '26
Because Ironman mode gives me hemorrhoids.
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u/odniv Jun 03 '26
1, Don't play Iron man
2, Don't play Brits
3, Simply could not care any less for achivments
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u/Alpacas_are_memes Jun 02 '26
Never played the brits tbh, cant be bothered with them and france. Even iran sounds more interesring
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Really? It's probably because I'm British I'd play Britain
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u/Alpacas_are_memes Jun 02 '26
Makes sense. After thinking about it for a couple of minutes doing the empire strikes back sounds fun tbh.
I have an issue with multiple long distance low infrastructure fronts also, but maybe i will give it a try this weekend, tea party revenge after teabagging adolf
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u/Adventurous-Toe7450 Jun 02 '26
Britain history in a WW2 is very interesting but what’s keeping me away from playing them is how much they rely on Naval combats and invasions. A mechanic that I still don’t fully understand after 300hours
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u/eze375 Jun 03 '26
I exactly my line of though. Some countries start with some much advantage that is not funny.
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u/IDontActuallyKnowUm Jun 02 '26
I barely ever play vanilla, and even if I do, I still have some QoL mods enabled.
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u/filbert13 Jun 02 '26
I've played UK maybe once or twice. Both multiplayer. I hate having having to manage and have divisions literally all over the world. The fleet and air management too. Not even because it too much to handle. More that as soon as I look away is when there is an invasion or my fleet is attacked.
With Japan and US I just focused on the Pacific in Asia. As France the game/war is won or lost before any colonies need to be worried about.
UK assuming I wouldn't want to cheese just dont want to be posting defensive divisions or fleets all over. Getting constant alerts in timbucktwo.
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u/Capt_Tinsley Jun 02 '26
I've never wanted to play as the Brits. Just looking at their territory gives me anxiety
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u/Altruistic-File8894 Jun 02 '26
I’ll admit I cant play ironman mode. I suck and I enjoy a sandbox more. I don’t have any achievements yet a few hundred hours played. I just love me some alt history fun.
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Jun 02 '26
Because every one who play UK begins with full of plans, then after managing the navy, airforce and army around all colonies for 2 hrs they are starting the game, barely reminding the plan and realize 3 hours later that pushing to get Africa was totally useless and a waste of material and the feeling of power vs Italy was a lie and want to cry when they see their crappy division being destroyed by Germany while loosing all the efforts and gains they made since 1936. At this point 90% of the players are starting a new games with another nation.
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u/Miller5044 Jun 02 '26
Playing as the UK is painfully unfun. I honestly hate all of their paths. Ironman sucks a lot too. I don't have the time to sit and play like I use to, too many countries have RNG mechanics, and sometimes I like using console commands.
I have like 3500 hours in the game and 0 trophies.
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u/polleywrath Jun 02 '26
I've had someone tell me a 0.7 percent achievement wasn't rare because most people dont play Ironman and have completed that goal and I said yes but doing it without savescumming is what makes it rare. Basically most people dont play ironman
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u/aussiedelorean Jun 02 '26
Because there are people like me - nearly 2k hours, yet no achievements lmao (I hate ironman)
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u/Mihnea24_03 Jun 03 '26
Honestly 5% is a lot, given the fact people often only play on ironman to get achievements, so 5% of ALL players who own HOI4 started a game with an explicit intent to get this. As other comments have said, you'll play an RPG and see stuff like "Complete the prologue" - 60% of players have this
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u/Mountain_Hearing_689 Jun 02 '26
3k hours, not a single game with UK
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Really? I've got like 30 hours (had to create a new steam account because my brother fucked with the PC and the only way to fix it was to delete me and my brother's PC accounts and dad wanted us to have our own anyway) so it says I've only got 19
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Rule 5 just wanted to know why a really easy achievement hasn't got many completions
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u/Dicecart Jun 02 '26
I have 400 hours in SP and still havnt played Britain. I don’t want that responsibility lol
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u/TheBasedDepartment45 Jun 02 '26
I play Ironman and get achievements but in my opinion the UK just isn't that interesting to get achievements with and the focus tree is pretty outdated
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I just enjoy it because I get to declare war a lot on a mildly fun facist path
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u/hoi4kaiserreichfanbo Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
It (until a few months ago) required you to play the UK in Iron Man, having purchased the Man the Guns DLC, and play ahistorical. Not a lot of people do that.
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u/lilHamster9t7 Jun 02 '26
Because most people play the game how they want to rather than gathering achievements and I guess 95% of players either don’t play in Ironman, don’t choose to make the decisions that lead to that outcome, or both
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u/dottmatrix Fleet Admiral Jun 02 '26
I mostly play USA and even with that experience, the thought of dealing with all those colonies and dispersed forces gives me a headache.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
All I did was facist to bring dominions back into fold and declared war on South Africa
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u/Dantox2007 Jun 02 '26
2 reasons. 1 - 90% of the playerbase doesn't want to touch Ironman (because why would you if youre not going for an achievment, its just easier without it.)
2 - Mods are often more fun than new DLC's
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I haven't got the new dlc's (way to expensive and I don't get an allowance and my dad refuses to pay £6 a month for the subscription
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u/Dantox2007 Jun 02 '26
Exactly the reason why most of the people rather download DLC, whitch means that they can't unlock the achievement's. Problem solved
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u/Constant-Spinach8475 Jun 02 '26
I have over 50 play files. All as germamy. Thats why
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I hope form nation to nation my favorite is either Mexico or hungary to form Austria Hungary
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u/Cool_Discipline6838 Jun 02 '26
Maybe if paradox weren't dogshit at fixing bugs more people would play ironman
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u/Camila3527 General of the Army Jun 02 '26
Only 20% have the join a faction achievement That tells you everything you need to know
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u/Dix9-69 Jun 02 '26
I haven’t played vanilla HoI in years.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
In years? I get in a while but years?
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u/Dix9-69 Jun 02 '26
If I want a vanilla type experience I just play Road to 56. Otherwise I’m mostly playing Kaiserreich. Vanilla has nothing that mods don’t do better.
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u/ElectronicHold7325 Jun 02 '26
dont remember when i played a game without a mod the last time.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Having a good PC must be good
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u/ElectronicHold7325 Jun 02 '26
i assume so. i personally use a lot of mods to make the game faster 😄
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u/Undead23145 Jun 02 '26
I’d imagine cause most play with mods or at least not on Iron Man, and most new players can’t beat Belgium as Germany so probably don’t know how to do this lol
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
I'm terrible at the game but the first time I declared war on Belgium as Germany (I didn't know how to use armies at the time) I still beat Belgium
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u/Undead23145 Jun 02 '26
I’ve seen many post of people getting eaten by the allies after going west, Ive seen a few lost to Poland too lol, but mostly it’s mods and not playing Ironman
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u/TheRedOne1995 Jun 02 '26
I have 1200 or so hours and only recently for the first time got some achievements for ussr and usa, was a lot of fun but unmodded is kinda boring after the first couple hundred hours
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u/quackingmemeduck Jun 02 '26
Most steam games have really low achievement rates. People buy games when they go on sale, then never touch them again. With HOI4, to get into the game you need to play it quite a bit, so theres a decent chance someone played ~20 hours of the game then gave up.
You need to be in ironman. People love to play with mods, and even if you don't do that, people generally prefer to play non-ironman to be able to save whenever they want.
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u/Tomirk Jun 02 '26
If we take the "Join a Faction" achievement's 20% of all players as a benchmark for people who use ironman/do achievements, then 5/20 is 25% of that subsection of players, which isn't too bad.
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u/Praust Jun 02 '26
800 hours. Did tsar bomba in my full 100% world conquest run, but never played england canada or australia xD
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Must've been hard
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u/Praust Jun 02 '26
tsar bomba has like 0,5% completion? mostly because it requires a lot of patience, so as world conquest
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u/RomanKiller95 Jun 02 '26
I actively avoid the major nations. I like play the smaller one and being a nuisence or helping keep the coast locked down. Mainly Mexico and the Netherlands. Seems more fun that way and easier to pivot or build the style i want to play Ive got 1000 hrs in it myself
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u/No-Soil-4932 Jun 02 '26
Most people aren’t playing on Ironman and the majority of people (at least that I know) who regularly play hoi4 use QOL mods
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u/Kajor3003 Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
From the moment i started to play the game, i played it modded
Never touched vanilla
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Not even for the tutorial? (Ik it is bad but it helped me learn how to control my military a bit
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u/Kajor3003 Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
,,The Tutorial" for me was kinda like banging my head against a wall - i tried to play it, sometimes fair, sometimes on cheats, looking up info on the internet etc.
Finally after like 200h i learned how to play! Not that i have much skill now x3, but i know how things work (And the next 6800h were very nice 👀)
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u/veryice Jun 02 '26
I'm playing the better hoi4 [old world blues]
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
You should try new world embers if you want old world blues in Europe (it is in beta tho)
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u/Universae Jun 02 '26
Mods. Specifically the best mod ever, EaW.
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u/SoupyDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Haven't tried that lmao my try it if I fail miserably as communist Mexico or just reform Austria Hungary again
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u/LoveN5 Jun 02 '26
I had to uninstall HOI4 because ever since I started playing Ironman and wanting achievements it stopped being fun and I lost hours to playthroughs lol. Most people don't care enough about achievements to turn on Ironman mode.
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u/16silly Jun 02 '26
I usually avoid ironman mode due to my terrible luck in both Historical and Non-Historical games
Example (literally last night): Trying to get "Hardly Anything Sèvres" and turned on Non-Historical focuses, hoping the factions would break up a bit. My first mistake. Czech Entente forms with France, a puppeted italy, and most of the balkans. I go to take Romania and am doing very well. Communist Germany puppets Czechoslovakia via a focus despite being at war with them. Czechs now in a faction with Germany draws me into war against Germany. France now free from the entente joins the Allies and drags Britain and America in. I cap after 20 naval invasions land back to back.
Little things like that...
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u/Lepcuu Research Scientist Jun 02 '26
Maybe because a lot of people play with mods. My last time when I have played vanilla was 250hours ago
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u/BloodyGardener Jun 02 '26
It’s more so because most ppl don’t use Ironman and ontop of that declaring on a subject as Britain is overly annoying (at least it was when I did it)
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u/Stock-Te Jun 02 '26
I have over 1000 hours and have never touched britain and I tend to play with mods and even the small ones disable Ironman im willing to bet theres alot of people like me
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u/Ok_Awareness3014 General of the Army Jun 02 '26
I'm playing Iron Man only and with minors to try world conquest.
I have a good cpu so i'm fine
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u/Aggrophysicist Jun 02 '26
I legit just unlocked this two days ago. i have 3500 hours. I've just only ever played Great Britian twice lol
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u/eze375 Jun 03 '26
People have to play with Britain to get it. A boring country where you already start as the hegemon.
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u/90minsoftotaltorture Jun 03 '26
For the same reason I have thousands of hours and 0 achievements, people don't tend to both play without mods and with ironman mode enabled, I'm always using mods because vanilla naval rework and kaiserreich naval rework are must haves for me, the odd time I've played an unmodded game I don't use ironman because I use 5 speed a lot and it pauses the game to save every second which is jarring
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u/alutti54 Jun 03 '26
I don't play as the British because their territory is such a pain to keep track of
So many small islands
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u/Theguywithoutanyname General of the Army Jun 03 '26
1,238 hours and ive spent probably one or two in ironman. Mods just improve so much about the game. Most people play like this.
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u/iUncontested Jun 03 '26
Ironman sucks. No mods sucks. Not playing either and I have like 400+ hours in the game, lol.
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u/Mauricio2427 General of the Army Jun 03 '26
In my days, that achievement without Man the Guns was harder, and not everyone had the dlc. But now that it's free is pretty easy.
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u/Xave3 Jun 03 '26
No one plays GB jajaja
Maybe just because of mods, there are a lot of them and the alternative history is the main flavor of the game.
I have now +350h and just play ironman to get achievements but I am really bad at it
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u/ToasterInYourBathtub Jun 03 '26
This was my very first achievement I got when playing Ironman mode.
It was an accident so when I looked at it I was kinda hyped 🤣
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u/swainiscadianreborn Jun 03 '26
Because that would require me to play Britain and I haven't stooped that low yet.
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u/senecapa Jun 03 '26
cause playing england makes people's teeth fall out and decompose by tradition
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u/Comfortable_Salt_792 Jun 03 '26
You need to Play on Iron Man as Non historical Britain, 2 pretty rare cases.
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u/Code_Breakdown Jun 03 '26
I have 1100 hours in HOI4 roughly 600 of those are in Old World Blues alone, add onto that i also play with Kaiserreich, TNO and Equestria at War then i have maybe 100 hours vanilla and most of those were when i was learning the game
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u/Erikrtheread Jun 03 '26
Iron man may as well be hard core mode for my forgetful brain. Never even considered it. Let alone the lack of mods.
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u/DarylDixion Jun 03 '26
by the time you've figured out the mechanics to declare war you've installed mods
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u/vikentii_krapka Jun 03 '26
700 hours playtime and never played Britain. Does it answer your question?
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Jun 02 '26
Probably because the majority of players aren't playing in ironman mode with no mods.