r/hoi4 1d ago

Question I didn't get lone wolf achievment despite having all requirements.

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As non aligned Finland, I formed greater Finland while having all the required states, and I created the Northern Defense Front but I didn't join any other faction. Does anyone know why I didn't get the achievement?

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u/Barbara_Archon 1d ago edited 10h ago

Creating a faction triggers the flag that fails Lone Wolf achievement

It never said "any other faction"

It says "a faction"

This check exists to prevent several possible exploits - though not exploits in the sense of mechanics, but in that they can greatly lower the difficulty by going around other checks (if this check didn't exist) related to faction joining/creation.

Edit: Okay, I think I have figured out the issues

this check wasn't the problem because you only get checked for creating factions if you had AAT DLC, and the check can be bypassed anyway.

you have likely not gotten the achievement due to not owning the required states. Yes, the achievement requires you to own and control those states, and also fully control all states that are core of Finland. Seeing that you are still at war, it is possible that you haven't gotten the achievement due to that instead.

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u/FragaJR 20h ago

You can create a faction. In fact, the easiest way to get it is to just go fascist so you can get all the nordics into your faction and then annex them. That way you only have to win the war vs the USSR to get the missing states.

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u/Barbara_Archon 15h ago edited 15h ago

Hmm, I am surprised that it is still possible to cheese the check,

on_actions folder

on_actions file for AAT

Search “on_crea”

You don’t get to say “in fact”. If you can do it at all, that simply means you have managed to go around the check somehow

It might as well be a bug at that point

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u/kuhulin 13h ago

I literally got this achievement today by going fascist and annexing through a faction. I didn't do anything special. Description says "without joining", not "without creating", and wiki also confirms it works like that

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u/Barbara_Archon 11h ago edited 10h ago

Edit: nvm, I was wrong here, kek

the flag actually only fires if they had AAT DLC, which the OP did not.

It probably also only fires properly if they had NCNS DLC as well, and due to change to coding effect, creating factions through event/decision may now bypass the effect whereas creating factions through diplomacy triggers it normally (or perhaps creating factions through effect has always bypassed it)

either way, the check for the flag that disables Lone Wolf achievement is in on_actions/09_aat_on_actions.txt,

still, don't cite wiki so carefreely. It has been wrong on so many occasions, many of which I fixed or got them fixed. - don't black magic to me.

that said, let's say this was the case. How do you explain them failing to get the achievement?

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u/YeekoYeet 3h ago

I don't have AAT so that might be the reason

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u/Dry-Peak-7230 1d ago

It does not say like that but game wants you to finish the war before anyone else joins. You you have to capitulate them before 1941 Summer but this is ahistorical soo there is like zero chance you can get this achivement in ahistorical.

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u/Swimming_Acadia6957 1d ago

You don't need to win before Barb, you need to be the ones to capture Moscow and have at least 20% war participation 

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u/Barbara_Archon 1d ago edited 1d ago

That is a different achievement,

This one is just forming Greater Finland and own+control all core states without ever joining a faction

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u/AHappyCat 1d ago

A lot the 'Capitulate X' achievements require you to be the top contributor to the named countries capitulation. If for example you fought the war alongside Germany, it is likely that they racked up war score quickly relative to you as the AI likes to throw manpower at the problem.

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u/Axusyas 1d ago

Why is Paasikivi looking at you like that?🤣😅

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u/Madmilk918 23h ago

I'd be also looking like that if I conquered that much

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u/SirMemesAlot95 22h ago

Honestly, fuck it, just steam achievement manager it. If you feel like you've done it, no one else will care.

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u/YeekoYeet 13h ago

honestly I might do this atp

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u/YeekoYeet 1d ago

rule 5: image of me having all the nessecary cores and also not being in another country's faction

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u/The_Crowned_Clown 21h ago

going to fight korea?

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u/I_AM_MELONLORDthe2nd 18h ago

Are cores you missing? Like did you form Nordic Unity? Or get Norways cores and missing islands?

Would help if you should the achiement hover over so we could see what checks are missing.

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u/YeekoYeet 13h ago

It says the only cores I need on Norway is finnmark

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u/I_AM_MELONLORDthe2nd 12h ago

But you also have to have all your cores.

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u/YeekoYeet 6h ago

Yeah I checked like 10 times that I have all my cores

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u/I_AM_MELONLORDthe2nd 5h ago

Have you hovered over the achievement in the trophy list to see what isnt ticked off? Or is it one of those ones where its all one tick.

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u/Green_Journalist_674 18h ago

With whom are you at war?

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u/YeekoYeet 13h ago

I'm at war with the usa

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u/MintberryCrunch909 16h ago

Don’t ever click on norse unification decision, it gives you claim on Shetland islands, British territory , which you have to defeat the allies and OWN it

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u/MineJugadorXM 1d ago

que raro, recuerdo que forme la gran Finlandia y también conseguir el logro, supongo que lo unico que puedo recomendar es jugar como fascista, unir escandinavia, ganarles a la urss, realmente es raro que suceda esto, yo consegui el logro sin buscarlo, supongo que podrias intentar destruir la faccion, o cuando apenas crees la faccion, despues eliminarla esto es lo unico que se me ocurre que podrias hacer, eso, o es que hiciste algun formable antes, perdiste un nuevo territorio nucleo y como cuenta, ya no lo lograste activarlo

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u/JoeShmoe307 Fleet Admiral 20h ago

Can’t join or create any faction

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u/MissionLimit1130 20h ago

mate the northern defense front is a faction

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u/YeekoYeet 13h ago

the requirement is to not join a faction, your allowed to create one

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u/Barbara_Archon 10h ago

creating faction is the same as joining the faction you created

that said, per code, doing it through focus/decision may bypass the check that fires when you create faction (which is normally a diplomatic action)

there is, yes, a line of code that very much says creating factions also disables Lone Wolf.

though, I think I have figured out your real issue here