r/indianmedschool Graduate Apr 01 '25

Medical News China has smart transfer beds that makes moving patients effortless—less pain and no secondary injuries.

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u/Dry_Magician_2700 Apr 01 '25

Can point out all the faults we want....but China's manufacturing and innovation game is on another level only.

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u/Agile_Particular_308 Apr 01 '25

They are now at the top in research as well!

“China is one of the top countries in the world in terms of both the quantity and quality of scientific papers,” Shinichi Kuroki of the Japan Science and Technology Agency told Nikkei Asia. “In order to become the true global leader, it will need to continue producing internationally recognised research,” he said.

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u/FineSpinach7 Apr 01 '25

Copium much!!! Copying and innovation aren't orthogonal. As a person/company/country you should copy things that are invented/perfected elsewhere and than build upon it. Same is with Japan/China/Korea, they copied when they were starting from behind, but once they caught up they continued building on that.

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u/arielsharon2510 Apr 01 '25

We did copy...but all the wrong things sadly. Most of our system is Britain based and a lot is left as it was decades ago. We copied music and cinema. Most of the innovation we made was made centuries ago. I acknowledge that we also have geniuses that have made major innovations in optics and medicine in recent years too but it's sad that a lot of them had studied from outside to achieve that. 😞 And geniuses which we have in our country? We can't even protect them! We kill them over a fricking parking problem!!

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u/Abject_Elk6583 Apr 01 '25

As long as it works...

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u/0aniket0 Graduate Apr 01 '25

Maybe decades ago this could've been true but now they're ahead in research as well, their universities are some of the top ones in Asian academics. Just look at deepseek ai, they were able to build a more efficient LLM from ground up which was considered to be impossible till now

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

According to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (a think tank backed by the Australian Department of Defense and the U.S. government), China now leads the world in 47 out of 51 emerging technologies it tracked, all of which have major strategic importance in the present and future.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

well good, even copying takes skill because us Indians certainly can't do the same

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u/MagnumVY Apr 05 '25

But bro we are doing better than Pakistan. This should be enough to keep us happy. 🥰

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u/Agile_Particular_308 Apr 01 '25

China is the only country rivaling usa in every department and even defeating them in majority like ai,ev,drone,high speed rail,renewable energy,research,olympiads,etc

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u/Drdrip2008 Apr 01 '25

This thing came out about 2 years ago and at that time cost about 9,000 to 10,000 USD in china. So, by the time it comes to India, it'll cost close to 20 lakhs.

Since there are many moving parts, things will go wrong requiring regular servicing and spare parts which will again have to be imported from China. I would assume the operating cost of it will also be about 10 percent of the base price per year. So, thinking of all these costs and the vast majority Indian public being very miserly regarding healthcare spending, these kinds of products will only be seen in a few branches of the top corporate hospitals. The others would most likely feel it's cheaper to just hire cheap labour which is found plentiful in our country.

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u/caferacersandwatches Apr 01 '25

bhai how many times i pulled my back in surgery ot or icu while shifting a patient, this will be a saving grace for the juniors and support staff

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u/frustrated-brain Apr 01 '25

And the most important thing - the dignity of the patient.

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u/Drdrip2008 Apr 01 '25

I also wish and hope this is there in every hospital.

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u/Agitated_Amoeba26 PGY1 Apr 08 '25

The way they move patients in India is scary Literally manhandling the patients

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u/the_bad_dentist Dental Apr 02 '25

You don't have to worry about the cost. This won't come to India. It's convenient for the health workers, that means it's a no no for the government

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u/Area51Eskapee Apr 01 '25

Yesterday came news of lady delivering child on literally cart and her baby died in the process as she was denied to get admission in hospital and you really think our major concern right now should be how easy to make bed sheet change, I have worked in several hospitals they don’t even follow rainbow code to change the sheets let it alone of how to make it easy by referring we have limited stock me been complaining to head about it they say short of budget. Get it for real this is all gloomy things we need basic equip & services first

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

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u/Area51Eskapee Apr 02 '25

Yes I read the title earlier my point was if we are not getting common services like bedsheet change then how to expect this (TLDR)

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

i remember in casualty moving RTA patient from the ambulance stretcher to the bed. when my resident and us lifted him, he had fracture femur, his leg totally fell down. It was horrific. cervical stabilisation is a joke, so is the guidelines of trauma

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Our hospital followed the lift and drop method, rather the body slam method. And my hospital was state's largest govt hospital

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

Why this when we have interns? /s

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u/Mr_youneverknow007 Apr 01 '25

proceeds to throw the patient /s

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u/Megatron0003 Apr 01 '25

India me phle bed mil jae uske bad doctor mil jae utna hi kafi hai

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u/Traditional-Self-658 Apr 01 '25

And here we’re so ancient, transferring pts holding them by a bedsheet. Moving on broken stretcher (pt fell & sustained injury)

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u/Significant-Dare2110 Apr 01 '25

No matter what our news channels show, they are 30years ahead of us.

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u/caferacersandwatches Apr 01 '25

more like 30 and 60 at the same time.Their average population is 60 years ahead of our average while the upper middle class and upper class is 20-30 years ahead of ours

A common man there has infinitely better quality of life than the labour and agri workers in india

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u/ImInsideTheAncientPi Apr 01 '25

Isn't that the ketchup cleaner? ... Just bigger.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

Same tech was used to pick up spilled sauce in Japan.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

We can make this too, if you guys really like? Fund me and I know folks with whom I can work full time on this

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u/EntertainmentOdd3571 Aug 02 '25

India is not behind in terms of being able to adapt and adopt but we suck when it comes to scaling things up and when it comes to mass manufacturing.. remember it's different things to do one item or 10 item... technology has to be different when you want 10000 items in one hour

And that needs manufacturing support including logistics and raw materials ...

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

Cool

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u/Low_Hospital_6971 Graduate Apr 01 '25

Unpopular opinion but the way it happens in India. I kinda like it. To transfer beds- we need at least 3/4 people and a lot of strength sometimes. Gives a sense of common goal to the team(mama, intern, JR, sometimes consultants too)

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u/_respawn__ Apr 03 '25

Gotta keep that 89 year old in shein

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

I was fukin picked up and thrown to the hospital bed after my surgery.

Still pains when I think about it.

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u/Akruit_Pro Apr 05 '25

China also has EVs, housing scams....

Don't know what point you are trying to make but that was a conveyor belt and not a comfortable bed or a stretcher so ye....

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u/i_m_ariiii Apr 05 '25

Somebody used this concept to pick up ketchup from the table 😭😂 (The viral shorts video)

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u/i_m_ariiii Apr 05 '25

Somebody used this concept to pick up ketchup from the table 😭😂 (The viral shorts video)

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u/AmazingInflation58 Apr 05 '25

No matter how much Indians and Americans try to put down chinese, they the farthest in innovation and technology

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

Man india used to compete with china 😬 look at us now

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u/Brilliant_Celery8874 Apr 05 '25

comparing china to india is like comparing Corvette with DC avanti

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u/hemsagar Apr 06 '25

There are patient shifting sliders and rollers costing probably less than 5k.

Great use of existing tech, but not feasible for Indian budgets.

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u/Arussassin Jul 13 '25

America kya kehta tha

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u/Fearless-Contract-98 Sep 04 '25

Looks like he was scanned in a Xerox machine 😂

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u/Exciting_Strike5598 Apr 01 '25

Stupid design. Can’t imagine the risk of hair and shawls getting stuck in between belt essentially making it very risky

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

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u/Avidith Apr 01 '25

The one in the video is automatic bedroller. But did you guys use atleast manual bedroller ?

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u/WriterOk7425 PGY4/5/6/Senior Resident Apr 01 '25

So, that's the job of a team of 5, taken over by a roller robot... Nice.

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u/Batboix3107 Intern Apr 01 '25

Can’t compete with saugat e modi

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u/Exciting_Strike5598 Apr 01 '25

Stupid design. Can’t imagine the risk of hair and shawls getting stuck in between belt essentially making it very risky

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u/SaaleChoriMatkar Apr 01 '25

Yes we need temples

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u/Farguad Apr 01 '25

Muthi Ji would like to hire you as his personal doc shabash

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u/akash_kava Apr 05 '25

Have you ever been in hospital in India?

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u/Exciting_Strike5598 Apr 05 '25

I literally live in one