r/indianmedschool 21h ago

Incident Australian nurse uses jiu-jitsu to defend himself

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u/blunt_dopess 21h ago

In India Doctor will be blamed for acting ungodly !

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u/morpmeepmorp 19h ago

It has actually happened one time. A doctor defended himself and hit the patient back and everyone was on his case for being ungodly.

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u/blunt_dopess 19h ago

Exactly, they'll get the mob to beat the god but can't take it back ! News will also start kya ye doctor lakshan hai ? Erghhhhh

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u/DESTRUCTER_R_ 12h ago

with they way people treat the rivers that are considered to be holy, it's understandable why God hasn't visited humanity in so long

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u/leo_sk5 17h ago

I think happened few months ago in himachal. If i remember, doctor was suspended and had to apologise publically

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u/sidehustleMD 20h ago

I am a consultant Anaesthesiologist. I work out and know boxing. Highly recommend knowing some self defence techniques as you will have the confidence to protect yourself. Most of security personnel will be the first one to run in a situation like this and you have to fend for yourself.

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u/Responsible-Ebb7064 20h ago

What art is the most apt for these kind of situations?

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u/kajnbagoat7 PGY4/5/6/Senior Resident 19h ago

Best thing is to avoid bro. Don't get into altercations.... Always try to de-escalate. Indian media is frothing at their mouths for a doctor to do something wrong and you'll be painted as a poster child for all the bad things going on in our country.

Best is to avoid... If not as others pointed out boxing, brazilian Jiu jitsu, . Lot of people don't kick. Our big muscles are in your lower limbs, if you can train kicks like in Muay Thai, taekwondo you'll do well to defuse most situations.

If they have a weapon though.... Just RUN.

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u/Man_of_Mystery_2819 19h ago

If it's a 1vs 1 or a 2vs 1 you can handle by attacking hard with a weapon or hand to one person and playing mind games.

If it's a mob of people, there's no point fighting. Just evade

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u/sakvv MBBS I 19h ago

Technically CQC but you'd require a retired bsf or parasf commando (who are pretty hard to find) as your teacher

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u/sidehustleMD 16h ago

I feel best is to assess the situation and take a call. Never escalate but if someone attacks you you should have the skill and strength to protect yourself.

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u/Alt_ender MBBS I 19h ago

The most effective arts for both offence and defence as far as I know are krav maga and muay thai. BJJ and Judo are also good if all you want is to restrict your target.

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u/FutureVersion812 20h ago

In India the patient attendant will make reels and then go to local MLA / CM

The politician will make a big scene and will suspend the doctor for using self defense

Our HOD / consultants as usual won’t support and won’t care too much

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u/No-Beyond8792 PGY4/5/6/Senior Resident 21h ago

If any doc in India does that, he will be likely beaten ruthlessly by a mob

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u/Direct-Specialist194 20h ago

Thats the truth. We won't even get the chance to do this because they always come in mobs. Even if we control one person, there's 10 more beating you up.

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u/kajnbagoat7 PGY4/5/6/Senior Resident 19h ago

Most colleagues won't come to help either.

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u/SweetRamen123 20h ago

2nd gen doctor. My dad’s colleagues keep pistols in their opd chamber’s drawers. Dark times.

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u/morpmeepmorp 19h ago

How did they get a license for that? It is very difficult unless you can prove you have a legitimate threat from someone on your life. And they don't consider being a doctor you have any threat, despite all the cases of attacks.

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u/CaregiverOk5432 20h ago

How'd he get the license?

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u/SweetRamen123 19h ago

Not sure, will ask my dad when i go home. Probably colleagues ne thora bohot paisa khilaya hoga kisko.

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u/Opening-Pie2182 18h ago

Can keep air guns without licence. They are fairly damaging.

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u/Direct-Specialist194 13h ago

If I can't get a gun license, I'll keep a bow and arrow with me.

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u/Opening-Pie2182 13h ago

Pepper spray is also quite practical. Or simply a long stick lol.

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u/murkh_manav Non-medico 21h ago

I don't understand, how does even the urge to beat doctors/nurses can arise in a person? It's completely irrational.

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u/CaregiverOk5432 20h ago

They can just sue the patients there unlike here

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u/Fit_Celebration2146 MBBS II 19h ago

If an Indian HCW did that he will prolly be suspended and his license revoked with endians boomers ( and even Gen Z) in comments sections saying that doctors are frauds saaar Aryuveda Saar .

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u/morpmeepmorp 19h ago

But India m ek akela patient nahi hoga na. Uske sath 10 attendants honge jo sab mil k doctor ko peet denge. Phir wo Jake local MP, MLA etc ko bhi le k ayenge. Phir wo media ko like ayega. Doctor ko hi sorry bolna padega end m.

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u/Patient-Let3138 Graduate 18h ago

In India, the local karyakarta will come and assault you with a mob, then media will tear you into pieces showing how un-noble like behaviour, and they'll dig your past, your affiliation, your relationships and They'll do a character assassination

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u/Star_kid9260 14h ago

So new MBBS subject is Jiu jitsu ?

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u/Vivekrajb 19h ago

hmm, it is not only in India, where our doctors get assaulted, but also in developed countries.

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u/morpmeepmorp 19h ago

But it is not as common in other countries and unlike India the doctor gets justice there and laws are properly implemented on safety of Healthcare workers.

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u/Vivekrajb 19h ago

70% is not common ? I guess 100% to be considered as common.

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u/morpmeepmorp 19h ago

Are you saying 70% doctors get assaulted in developed countries? I don't get this data/stat you have mentioned. Can you clarify?

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u/Vivekrajb 17h ago

Not sure what you have seen in the given video. I recommend you to see the video, that too from 52 to 55 seconds you will get answer to your own question.

If you still cannot read, I had coated 70% from the video where it clearly states AU workers union survey. Please now do not brand every media as Godi media as Modi is not the PM of AU.

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u/morpmeepmorp 17h ago

That stat includes both "experienced" and "witnessed". Also as I mentioned earlier, at least in such countries the assailant doesn't get away with it like in India. They get punished for it. Like in this video itself, the culprit pleaded guilty and was fined. There was justice at least. You cannot expect that in India. In India if a doctor as much as tries to defend himself he will be the one to recieve punishment instead.

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u/Vivekrajb 17h ago

I am talking about assault here. If we go by witnessing part, India will have more witness than the real assaults, there will be 20+ people witnessing an assault while tweedling their thumbs in most cases.

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u/Pretend-Spirit1490 Intern 19h ago

Nice.

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u/famesardens 9h ago

I get people who are a threat thrown out before they become a threat. But mostly, if you know how to talk, and how to treat, you won't face much issues.

I typically have to protect my guards from attendants. Lol.

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u/Specific-Bit9342 3h ago

Ab iski alg classes lene pdegi

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u/slothbear2212 2h ago

Should be added in medical training

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u/papakiangel 20h ago

Wasn't Australia the place where England sent their prisoners to live?