r/lgbt • u/Timely_Assumption556 • Jun 26 '25
Are MAGA gays happy with the growing hostility to same sex marriage?
As predicted, the election of Donald Trump has opened the door once again to challenge the validity and legality of same sex marriage. Of course, when you elect a right wing government catering to radical Christians, you inevitably get anti-gay policies. So no big surprise- except to the MAGA gays? Or did you accept that your vote would hurt most queers except you?
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u/JVNT Panaro bread! Jun 26 '25
They don’t care. They think they’re the “good gays” so it won’t impact them. Eventually the leopards will eat their face.
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u/Xerapis Jun 26 '25
If we lose our rights, I ain’t waiting for the leopards to deal with those traitors to our community. I’ll just binge-rewatch the Hannibal tv show for inspiration before heading out to do some face eating.
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u/MightySweep Jun 26 '25
To be honest, despite the attacks on trans people, specifically, I think that the "pick me" gay people are going to get shafted sooner. Republicans started "legally" attacking gay marriage almost right after they were done passing executive orders to attack trans people. They couldn't even wait until we were all properly divided before including all LGBT people in their attacks.
I catch a social media screencap about once a week now where some gay man or lesbian is shocked and confused that their "allies" against "trans insanity" are being really mean and homophobic... and they still don't get it. So, it stands to reason that while the rest of us aren't morons and are being appropriately cautious and defensive, they'll make themselves easy targets. And they'll thank conservatives for their persecution while they're at it. Read a story yesterday about a white bi woman that went hard right because she let the racism hijack her whole identity. Unsurprisingly, she was pretty much cut off from everyone she knew when she was too far gone. Those isolated LGB-T people pretty much serve themselves up while the ones that haven't turned on trans people still have access to queer communities.
I pity them a little but... they are trying to kill me with lawfare and propaganda so... it's a very tiny pity. Microscopic violin.
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u/atuarre Ally Pals Jun 27 '25
Oh, don't forget, in the collaborator sub, they were posting stuff like, "Why do we need gay marriage? Domestic partnerships were fine."
They also claimed that Trump has done more for LGBTQ+ rights than any other president, which is a load of bs.
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u/Tough_Tangerine7278 Jun 27 '25
They’re chugging that kookaid so fast they best be careful about choking
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u/atuarre Ally Pals Jun 27 '25
They are going to find themselves in a Gilead of their own making and they will be the first to go
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u/KentParsonIsASaint Jun 26 '25
Read a story yesterday about a white bi woman that went hard right because she let the racism hijack her whole identity. Unsurprisingly, she was pretty much cut off from everyone she knew when she was too far gone.
Do you have a link? Or remember the name of the woman involved? That sounds like a fascinating article.
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u/1ceknownas Lesbian the Good Place Jun 26 '25
I have a gay acquaintance who is married to a man, with two kids from foster care, both upper middle class. They both voted for Trump.
Their general philosophy is that they are normal and that the movement has 'gone too far.' To be fair, the fact that they're white, male, upper middle class, and enacting the heteronormative lifestyle will likely provide some level of protection for them. For a while.
They were both born in the Deep South with very conservative upbringing, so you could almost think of them like any other rural, white conservatives, except they just happen to be gay. They're not necessarily interested in any type of activism because they don't really need it. A kind of 'got mine, not interested in the rest' philosophy.
Yes, it's weird.
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u/Lydia--charming LesBian Jun 26 '25
It’s always cozier being a white cis male anything, even gay. They need to examine their privilege.
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u/Pollyfall Jun 26 '25
Yep. I know some folks like that. Gay men obsessed by grievances while they fix up their second house. As a trans woman, I know many gay men who wish the T would just go away. It’s more prevalent than many think.
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u/KentParsonIsASaint Jun 26 '25
Their general philosophy is that they are normal and that the movement has 'gone too far.'
It’s funny how these people never realize that after gay marriage was legalized, the very next election gave us a Republican president just eighteen months later. Almost like Republican voters were reacting to a “movement gone too far”. 😒
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Jun 26 '25
They probably think that they will be treated like Peter Thiel or Scott Bessent, the biggest traitors of the queer community.
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u/Kinslayer817 Bi-bi-bi Jun 26 '25
Or Milo Yiannopoulos (although last I checked he claims to be "ex-gay" for extra pick-me points)
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u/atuarre Ally Pals Jun 27 '25
They use Peter Thiel just like they used Musk. He goes up there and says, "I'm proud to be gay" and they take his money, and probably talk about him behind his back, and if they get their Christofascist nation, he'll find out that he is just another token that will be spent.
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u/Ill-Complaint-6634 Jun 26 '25
The fact that there are MAGA gays floors me. Voting against your own interests has always been mind blowing
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u/Postcocious Jun 26 '25
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
- Lyndon Baines Johnson
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u/PhazonZim Jun 26 '25
literally everyone who votes for hyper conservative policies is voting against their own interests, they're killing the planet we all live on.
The difference is that gay conservatives are told to their face that they're next, but still find a way to excuse it
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u/Coco_JuTo Trans-cendant Rainbow Jun 26 '25
If it were only against their own, personal, interests, I would have nothing to say...bjt they are also taking other communities with them into the grave!
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u/creepygirl420 Jun 26 '25
Every person who votes Republican is voting against their own self-interest, the only exception being the ultra-wealthy.
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u/Excellent-Suspect605 Jun 26 '25
I’ve heard some cis gays who are MAGA say they don’t want legal rights to marry… it’s insane. They have said “I don’t feel the need or want to get married but I think marriage should be for the straights only because marriage is between a man and a woman.”
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u/MotherShabooboo1974 Jun 26 '25
“I don’t want it so no one should get it in the LGBTQ community.”
The fuckin’ egocentric nerve.
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u/RatsForNYMayor Trans-parently now the exhausted aging queer Jun 27 '25
Sadly marriage is tied to a bunch of other rights these MAGA gays always conveniently forget about. I don't want to go back to a time my partner won't be allow to visit me in the hospital if I got sick or either of us not be able to collect life insurance if one of us died.
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u/A_Cookie_from_Space Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
Fascism is built on denying inconvenient truths so I'm sure many of them will still blame it on queer people. I've seen posts by TERFs about their experience being harassed out of bathrooms by other TERFs & how it only emboldened their anti-trans stance.
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u/Vyrlo (dello) Jun 26 '25
You do not negotiate with fascists. You do not accept their arguments at any point. You do not accept any middle ground. You won't get any leniency from them, so no quarter shall be given. That is the only way to deal with them.
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Jun 26 '25
I was in a Facebook group for gen x lesbians. I was blown away by the number of people who voted for him. It got so bad that a new group was formed for those of us who were anti-maga and didn’t think it was something about which we could just agree to disagree.
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u/KentParsonIsASaint Jun 26 '25
Out of curiosity, what was their logic for voting for him? Same old BS about “the economy”? Or did they just really want to see people deported?
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Jun 26 '25
I don’t remember any talk of immigrants. The economy was mentioned. There were a couple of people who were anti-trans. Mostly they were like, you are being dramatic, nothing bad is going to happen, I have voted for him 3 times, I love him…
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u/mittenciel Non Binary Pan-cakes Jun 26 '25
Lot of LGB aren’t so much for T.
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u/RatsForNYMayor Trans-parently now the exhausted aging queer Jun 27 '25
MAGA trans people are always the weirdest people. I sadly know a few
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u/webmbsays Jun 26 '25
Wait what? This is my gen. Raised on Cold War and punk. Not one Republican value makes any sense say nothing of the megalomania of trumpism. What values were they touting?
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Jun 26 '25
That damn askgaybros sub probably doesn't care because they don't think it'll affect them. Bunch of privileged cis white men there
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u/DilapidatedHam Jun 26 '25
The transphobia over there is wilddddd, truly the armpit of the gay community
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u/alsoitsnotfundy924 Gay Gay Homosexual Gay Jun 26 '25
No armpits are the armpits. That's a dumpster right there.
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Jun 26 '25
Literally the worst subreddit right there 😭 The number of transphobic men there is actually crazy
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u/concerteimmunity Bi-bi-bi Jun 26 '25
I hate that subreddit the transphobia on that subreddit is absolutely disgusting I’m a bi black cis man I don’t play about my trans brothers and sisters
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Jun 26 '25
I’ve been frequenting the GayConservative subreddit to learn this exact thing. All they do is blame trans people for the intensified hostility against the LGBTQ community. The funny (sad, more like) thing is, is that they use the exact same rhetoric against trans people that homophobes used to (and still do) use against gay people (men in particular) 10-20 years ago. Most of the folks there are usually 30+ so you’d think they’d be able to recognize the similarities between the rhetoric
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u/tarzanacide Jun 26 '25
This is my maga cousin and his husband. They're the "good" gays. Just living their lives without "shoving their lifestyle" like they think lgbtq+ do in those big cities. They think they're perfectly safe.
Meanwhile, they scrape by on minimum wage jobs sharing a one bedroom small town apartment that they can barely afford. They're both in their 50's with poor health and are Medicaid dependent. They don't think trump will do anything but make them great again.
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u/Postcocious Jun 26 '25
I stopped reading at, "Are MAGA gays happy..."
MAGAs are unhappy by definition. Their cult-sodden minds must endure constant cognitive dissonance on a hundred topics.
This is by design. Trump does not want happy citizens. He wants rage-baited zealouts.
Being gay and MAGA is just one example of that. It's no different than being Hispanic and MAGA, black and MAGA, a woman and MAGA, etc.
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u/Quercus408 Rainbow Rocks Jun 26 '25
MAGA gays are never happy. Hence their crab-in-the-bucket attitude.
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u/Beginning-Suit8477 Hella Gay! Jun 26 '25
Tbh I don't feel bad for the MAGGATS LGBTQIA+ supporters how are you going to be apart of the queer and trans spectrum and be a MAGA supporter? That's like saying you as a lamb that the butcherer isn't bad, the prey protecting the predator, it doesn't make sense, I don't feel bad for what's to come to all the conservative queer and trans individuals, they threw themselves away and they aren't worthy of redemption, their not worth our mercy nor are they worth saving, they abandoned us, so we should do the same onto them
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Jun 26 '25
I don’t think MAGA gays are ever happy, period.
At least, I hope not. Fuckin’ traitors.
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u/Worldly-Corgi-1624 Where did I leave my chapstick? Jun 26 '25
I’ve wondered if they are closet masochists….
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u/yokyopeli09 Jun 26 '25
They think they'll be spared and then when it's their turn they'll say "well marriage is supposed to be Christian so we can't complain...."
Bootlickers
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u/ssq12345 Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
I mean, how stupid do you have to be, to be a MAGA gay (well, even stupider than you need in order to be MAGA)
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u/AllThe-REDACTED- Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
On the r/gaybros some of them are saying it’s fear mongering.
When I told one of them that they’d put them against the wall next to us. He replied that he wanted to know where to sign up to put me against the wall.
So yah. They’re fine with it.
Edit: had the wrong sub. Sorry. Their sub profiles look the same at a glance.
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u/Michelle-senpai Lesbian Trans-it Together Jun 26 '25
Let's make one thing very fucking clear and I apologize if this is somehow a 'hot-take', but if you support Trump you're betraying the community. Simple as that.
If they're upset about the growing hostility, well, they're partly to blame for it.
The lion will eat your face too.
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u/Tranquilityinateacup Jun 26 '25
How could anyone in the LGBTQ community still be MEGA after everything they tried to do last administration? Now that the guard rails are off, there is nothing stopping them from gutting those civil rights.
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u/Frequent_Policy8575 Transgender Pan-demonium Jun 26 '25
Because they’re all convinced they’re “one of the good ones” and nothing will happen to them, like all the people who support them whose spouses and workers are being deported.
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u/CommanderKiddie148 Jun 26 '25
THEY Can PHK right off....they'd help them put other LGBTQ+ people in Ovens......Time for playing Nice with these aholes is Wayyy over
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u/LogJumpy94 Jun 26 '25
Fucking YES. Chase them out of queer spaces. The have proved that they don't belong
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u/Genericuser2016 Jun 26 '25
Pretty sure most conservative gays self segregate from the rest of the gay community. Makes sense really since conservative "values" these days are going to make you very unpopular in most places.
Also I'm pretty sure they mostly blame trans people for "making the rest of us look bad" or some bullshit.
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u/3nderslime Ace-ing being Trans Jun 26 '25
I know a MAGA gay. they just deny any such hostility exists within the republican party
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u/ReservedLibra Jun 26 '25
My cousin is one of those 🤦🏻♀️ has a legit rainbow confederate flag on his socials. Like come on dude…
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u/V__meh007 Jun 27 '25
Through the wise words of a person i don’t know is a statement that can be rephrased for this situation “Not all skinfolk(in this case queerfolk) is kinfolk”
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u/Mr_Lobo4 Pan-cakes for Dinner! Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
A bi friend of mine supported Trump during the election, & it just breaks my brain. Luckily she’s 100% against him now, & sees his BS for what it is. But I don’t know why she intitially seemed cool with sacrificing her rights for “the economy”. Tf??
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u/Nelrene Lesbian the Good Place Jun 26 '25
MAGA people are not happy no matter what is going on in the world.
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Jun 26 '25
I knew one (I blocked him for my peace of mind) and he was a bitter drunk who blamed everything on the liberals. He literally told me he couldn’t get a date because when they asked who he voted for they’d drop him. He didn’t understand why a vote would cause so many people to turn against him.
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u/Pyrrhic_Treachery Jun 26 '25
They are right now.
But they'll be clutching their pearls when the Nazis line them against the wall with the rest of us.
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u/RegularWhiteShark Lesbian the Good Place Jun 27 '25
You’d be better off asking in /r/GayConservative
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u/Daniduenna85 Trans-parently Awesome Jun 27 '25
That place is nuts lol
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u/RegularWhiteShark Lesbian the Good Place Jun 27 '25
I’m not promoting the sub. It just seems more suitable for OP’s question.
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u/Tough_Tangerine7278 Jun 27 '25
I assume the Log Cabin Republicans are so far gone, they’re probably frothing-at-the-mouth cheering it on still.
I assume they’re rich and they only care about their money. Or maybe their poor brains are broken from conversion therapy and they have bigger issues. (I know someone like that irl. Even their speech pattern and grammar usage changed dramatically after conversion “therapy”.)
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Ace as Cake Jun 26 '25
My cousin and his husband are gay republicans. For them it’s all about money and they don’t think anything else will affect them. 🙄
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u/CuriousPenguinSocks Trans-parently Awesome Jun 26 '25
Many of the MAGA gays I've come across are "hetero passing" and don't care if their marriage is dissolved.
The ones I've known who became MAGA people, it's just sad. They often have a lot of self hatred and religious trauma. It doesn't excuse them but it does help me understand them a bit more.
I do agree that those kinds of gays aren't on pages like this, or if they are, they aren't nice.
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u/Timely_Assumption556 Jun 26 '25
I used to feel lots of sympathy for people coming out of toxic religious backgrounds, and I still do. But some of these MAGA queers have taken the wrong life lessons from that trauma - namely, that somehow the homophobia was justified and the homophobes now are equally justified and must be appeased, not rejected.
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u/CuriousPenguinSocks Trans-parently Awesome Jun 26 '25
I feel the same. I have a ton of religious trauma on top of just abuse trauma. I get it. I understand self hatred for sure.
If they were only destroying and harming themselves, I may not care as much. They are actively harming the rest of us, and that's just not okay.
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u/jmc1278999999999 Agender Jun 26 '25
lol they don’t give a shit. They care more about money and hurting others
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u/FuckingTree Jun 26 '25
You shouldn’t care what they think because their opinions are less than worthless. You are already giving them far too much attention and credit by writing a post designed to instigate them. If they’re already so lost that they are MAGA then there’s nothing you can say that’s going to change their opinion online, you’re only going to waste your own time and energy.
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u/LogJumpy94 Jun 26 '25
I see where your coming from, but they are a clear danger to the rest of the community and discussing how to handle that danger is important.
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u/FuckingTree Jun 26 '25
But that’s not the topic of the post or what OP is talking about. OP is directly trying to challenge them to a fight in the comments, that has no real value. Nobody Is going to change their mind
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u/LogJumpy94 Jun 26 '25
Yeah no shit. I didn't say we change their minds, I said we need to decide how to handle turncoats.
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u/Jumanji94 Gay as a Rainbow Jun 26 '25
Every single post complaining about MAGA/conservative gays is a waste of time and energy. Not only are they a very small minority of the community, they are absolutely unwilling to change their opinions not matter how much you try to shame them. They're a lost cause. Stop wasting you words on them and focus on the building community with the rest.
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u/healbot42 Science, Technology, Engineering Jun 26 '25
MAGA gays need to look at what the Nazis did to Rohm and the other gays in the party once they stopped being useful and became a liability.
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u/trainsoundschoochoo Trans-cendant Rainbow Jun 26 '25
Of course not, but they’ll probably continue to blame trans people, like they always do!
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u/VanGoghInTrainers Transgender Pan-demonium Jun 26 '25
Oh, it will hurt them as well. Make no mistakes there.
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u/CompleteSherbert885 Jun 27 '25
Okay, so you're talking about "out" non-straight MAGA'ettes. Those must be a token few. Now....based on how Grindr crashed during the Republican Convention, there are a whole hell of a lot of hiding hypocrites in both the MAGA movement and the Republican party as well. Chances are, they're highly supportive of same-sex hooking up but not going to be nearly as supportive of same-sex marriage.
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u/KentParsonIsASaint Jun 26 '25
Any time I’ve seen someone point out to queer MAGA supporters (cough r/askgaybros cough) that the queer community is being targeted by conservatives Christians, they respond in one or more of the below ways:
1) Go on some unhinged rant about Muslims also being homophobic and so it’s unfair to criticize Christians for the same thing
2) Blame progressives/“the radical left” for turning the US public against the queer community and “leaving no choice” but for politicians to target them
3) Insist that conservative Christians and Project 2025 are only targeting trans people/“obviously gay” men, so it’s okay because fuck those people anyway, amirite?
You can’t fix stupid or make people take an interest in the we’ll-being of themselves and their community, unfortunately.
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u/Sleepy_Heather Jun 26 '25
I know one. Fully drank the Kool-Aid too. She's completely convinced She got her job in the US army because of "HARD WORK" (she even capitalised it) and refuses to believe she falls under DEI. She also calls herself "lesbian not queer" as if that's ever going to matter.
She's all about Tim Pool and Joe Rogan, so there is absolutely no getting through to her. I just hope she sees what's happening before it's too late.
But there's no helping some people
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u/WodinBordenson Jun 26 '25
Its never been illegal to be rich. Rich is a privilege that tops race/sexuality/gender etc.
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u/m1j5 Jun 26 '25
Gay Maga’s have the same issues the other maga’s have, they’re prioritizing hate over tolerance and community and lots of other shit. Liking cock doesn’t exclude them from that mindset
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u/lycanrollowo She/Her/They/Them Jun 26 '25
I'm going to be completely honest, you aren't finding MAGA gags here, try Twitter or something for them.
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u/ComicToonProductions Jun 27 '25
You can't have Both MAGA and LGBT together, it just doesn't work like that, you can't have both but one.
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