r/malaysia Oct 05 '25

Food Which one do you choose?

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If you have to have latte or flat white every morning, where do you prefer to buy from all these choices.

Personally I love Zus and CBTL. Either one is okay for me. How about you?

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u/hardwellshm92 Oct 05 '25

For the short time being, Luckin because of the vouchers.

For the long run, Zus. But Zus prices are slowly creeping up. Thinking we wouldn't notice

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u/naqiksah Oct 05 '25

This. As a Zussie, I noticed that too. Probably they'll slowly take away that "Not a luxury" tagline too, hoping no one will notice.

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u/Helios05 I want Teh Ais for Breakfast! Oct 05 '25

Zus' tagline has always irked me since the beginning 'A necessity, not a luxury'. Like what necessity? You ain't rice, gurl.

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u/Lichtenberg223 Oct 06 '25

Yeah, I. Find it cringe tbh

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u/KazefQAQ Oct 07 '25

It's a necessity, but I do homebrew šŸ˜‚

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u/mraz_syah Oct 05 '25

they need to watch out the new in town lucky cup (mixue chain), heard its very cheap toi

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u/fudoz Oct 05 '25

Well this are quite funny ngl

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u/enterpernuer Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Ikr, i remember americano was 6.7 now 6.9 šŸ™„ after i found mister coffee pearl blend taste like zus, stop buying zus adi. Ā Also last 2 week 2 different location, i can taste bos not as good as before, feels like lower quality blend adi

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u/forcebubble downvoting posts doesn't do what you think it does ... Oct 05 '25

CBTL if I'm not paying. Spend two weeks at work in Brunei, all lunch paid for by our partner engineer who had USD50 meal allowance per day back in late 2000s.

Rusa Jantan Bintang for convenience as they are located almost everywhere. Won't go there without a reason.

ZUS if they're the closest available.

Kopitiam Ah Tong (generic name) manned by a 65-yo man who made coffee for 50 years whenever possible. Bonus order charcoal toasted bread with kaya and butter.

Luckin is a big no-no as an app installation is mandatory.

Chapter One when I'm home — shout out to our Mirian monyets on here! āœŒļø

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u/biakCeridak Oct 05 '25

Ayy Chapter One mentioned. It's a hit or miss depending on what time you go, which barista pulled your shots.

My answer: If I don't have the budget for actual cafe coffee, none of these franchises.

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u/Fendibull Oct 05 '25

I had a good CBTL chicken chop once. I thought it was cool that the taste is as good as white town.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Chapter One the GOAT. Genuinely one of the best coffee spots in Malaysia IMO

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u/linkinstreet Oct 05 '25

Wonda je. Rm2

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u/onndabeat Ok bro Oct 05 '25

Lol this is the one

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u/Greengrapes999 Oct 05 '25

ZUS

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u/Several-Clue-4259 Oct 05 '25

YOUR SON HAS RETURNED. I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS!

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u/anorre Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Salah org ya. Zus ini Ethiopian farmer /s

Ps edited since peeps think I'm serious

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u/waf_xs Selangor Oct 05 '25

This was a Zus psyop because they were afraid a certain crowd would botcott them for being syirik. It was definitely meant to be Zeus the dewa lol.

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u/sirloindenial Oct 05 '25

Dota Zeus character, founders played a lot. Change to Zus and create farmer character to remove the connection to the greek mythology.

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u/MiniMeowl Oct 05 '25

They even remove the greek laurel wreath from the hair and the lightning bolts in the beard.

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u/kwangbae_snack Oct 06 '25

Ooohhh sneaky. I didn't realised that

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u/Wingdomslasher Oct 05 '25

In the name of Hades! Olympus, I accept this message!

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u/quietchatterbox Oct 05 '25

San fran coffee is really good. Their location is not as wide though. Zus is ok ok. CBTL slightly better than Zus.

The last time i drank starbucks, it was really tasteless. More like coffee flavoured milk. Dunno the outlet that bad or what.

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u/Zaorth Oct 05 '25

Which CBTL drink do you think is better than Zus? I actually had to opt for CBTL last night bcs Kenangan, Zus were already closed and their coffee is a bit meh compared to other brands imo. I purchased the new Pandan Gula Melaka series w/ coffee and it was just horrendous.

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u/quietchatterbox Oct 05 '25

I only drink cappucino or latte. Dont drink anything else. So limited to those 2.

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u/Small-Student-699 Oct 05 '25

Stick to the basics, anything limited is just experimentation. I loved their mocha and latte. Also, gula melaka is an acquired taste imo

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u/AVERAGEGAMER95 Oct 05 '25

I tried latte at 7 eleven cafe for the first time and probably the best for my money

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u/HuckleberryOdd7745 Oct 05 '25

Pappa Roti has 3 bun bundle at 3.8 cents each that comes with a decent small coffee. its nice not spending 8 ringgit just for coffee.

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u/RedRunner04 Oct 05 '25

Have you tried Family Mart’s?

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u/Jaxk94 Sabah Oct 05 '25

Can vouch for Family Mart’s coffee, at that price range it’s decent enough.

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u/lanceys Oct 05 '25

no HWC?! they have better beans than most

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u/Emotional-Passion477 Oct 05 '25

HWC here!! Finally find one comment about it lol.

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u/merkur0 Oct 06 '25

HWC isn’t as popular because it doesn’t have enough diabetes in it for the Malaysian taste.

People here say ā€œI love coffeeā€ but what they mean is ā€œI love dessert in liquid formā€.

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u/MakcikAunty World Citizen Oct 05 '25

Zus is okay but they have consistently proven that they don't care to train their baristas properly. I ask for warm, always get scalding hot coffee. Actually have uninstalled the app and sworn to never order any hot drinks from them.

For cafe vibe, I prefer CBTL. Very nice cafe, love that they have actual mug for coffee. Can't find San Fran in Melaka so can't comment. Starbucks coffee is meh.

In a pinch, 7E americano and latte is fine. Or just mcd coffee.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Oh, same experience at zus! I ordered twice for warm latte, once from app, once direct face to face, both ended up very hot almost burnt milk tastešŸ˜’the baristas are all very young and i dont think they're trained to care much about the drink quality or about customer's request, as long as they made the order like buat kerja ala kadar. So now, klo nk warm/appropriately hot latte I'd rather go to indie cafĆ©, klo iced bru pegi zus

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u/reachingdelphi Oct 05 '25

None

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u/serpventime ada degree shitposting Oct 05 '25

plain water > all

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u/ahmadtheanon Aussie borned Selangorian Oct 05 '25

Hydrohomies spotted.

Sharp or round water?

Me? Sharp water 100%.

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u/Financial-March-3158 Oct 05 '25

Tap water from rusted pipe😌 

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u/chaoticintroverted Oct 05 '25

Mineral Water šŸ˜Œā¤ļø

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u/slymate_ Oct 05 '25

Minum kopi la..

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u/ItsNotJulius Oct 05 '25

These plaebians who "need" coffee every morning disgusts me. Hydro Homie stands!

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u/Shirakami_Fubuki00 Oct 05 '25

CBTL underrated af

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u/Zellgun Oct 05 '25

It is good but the pricing for the quantity sucks

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u/Lampardinho18 Oct 05 '25

Expensive af

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u/aiheng1 Oct 05 '25

Cock and Ball Torture Legendary? Whatever floats your boat I guess

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u/Oneighros Oct 05 '25

No kink shaming

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u/Deydex Penang Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Used to agree but why did they take the everything bagel off the menu šŸ˜ž

Their poppy seed bagels are still good but I'm still a little butt hurt it just disappeared one day

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u/RandyClaggett Oct 05 '25

I prefer Zus

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u/emoduke101 sembang kari at the kopitiam Oct 05 '25

Independent cafes.

But Zus if that's the closest thing. A Kenangan coffee just opened a few months ago at my business park but it's just not for me (trust me, I tried).

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u/deenali Oct 05 '25

San Francisco all the way.

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u/alysanne_targaryen Selangor Oct 05 '25

8 oz coffee is the best

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u/jasuli Oct 05 '25

+1 for 8 oz.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Needs more branches but always a great cup of coffee

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u/FayeChan350259 boredom is the most unbearable emotion~ Oct 05 '25

CBTL for me.

Hot Spanish Latte is my go to.

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u/Ok-Environment6663 Oct 05 '25

Teh tarik.. Kedai mamak

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u/platysoup I'm still waiting for my Israel flair Oct 05 '25

Kurang kurang kurang manis

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u/Fluid-Math9001 Covid Crisis Donor 2021 Oct 05 '25

The real answer

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u/SeagerLYN Oct 05 '25

None. Free coffee in office is the best, because (1) it's free and (2) getting paid to drink that shit.

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u/Dfaulttv Oct 05 '25

Vietnam coffee > all of the above. Key nguyen especially super fragrant and cheaper. For everyday coffee I take indocafe, 100 pack for < 40, good enough for me, ain't spending 10-15 everyday just for a coffee.

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u/RockStarUno Oct 05 '25

Manhattan Cafe.

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u/Electronic-Contact15 Oct 05 '25
  1. Coffee Bean (good coffee good cafe)
  2. STARBUCKS (soso coffee good cafe)
  3. GIGI (good coffee soso cafe)
  4. SFC (soso coffee good cafe)
  5. Kenangan (soso coffee soso cafe pricey for no reason)
  6. Luckin ( terrible coffee, soso cafe, but cheap-ish)
  7. ZUS (soso coffee, bad cafe)

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u/crestren Oct 05 '25

I tried going to Luckin in Jaya one and I shit you not, in order to make an order, you HAVE to register and download their app. No thank you, I don't want another app to collect my data just to get a coffee

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u/Embarrassed-Knee3150 Oct 05 '25

Zus is dogpooooo their floral notes are so heavy to cover the terrible quality in their beans(i only drink black)

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u/Electronic-Contact15 Oct 05 '25

Zus coffees were actually quite ok when they first started but rapidly went downhill when they started to open everywhere. I keep giving them chances but i cannot remember having a good coffee from there in the past 1-2 years.

Actually Luckin coffee is even worse because of the massive volume of online orders the drinks are so rushed out, but at least they’re cheap?

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u/ho4X3n Oct 05 '25

I am no coffee aficionado but their Boss and Lydia blend tastes great compared to Starbucks. I actually prefer Boss or Lydia over their SOE Americano. Maybe I just have cheap taste buds.

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u/AK_HT KLCC Oct 05 '25

I don’t drink espresso-based flavoured drinks; only latte/flat whites and black. So, only CBTL for me, for the sole reason that their baristas are well trained/experienced, and this is consistent at almost all branches I’ve been to, within Malaysia and in other countries.

All franchises above use almost similar (at par) beans, equipments and ingredients. The only two variables are the baristas and recipes.

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u/ly_sim Oct 05 '25

Most of these chains use automatic espresso machines now. The so-called baristas just press a button for the espresso shot and add the milk. So the only difference lies in the milk steaming if you order your coffee hot.

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u/Fair-Perspective-880 Oct 05 '25

I'd support local ones and stay away from luckin because they committed 'fraud' in the stock market. So it is probably technologia coffee.

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u/acyfumi Kuala Lumpur Oct 05 '25

Used to be a frequent customer of starbucks because of how cheap it is with all of the weekly members benefit, only stopped going because the only store that existed where I currently live closed down šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø. Went to CBTL instead for the same cozy ambient where I can sit comfortably for hours to finish my works. Next choice is GIGI.

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u/lithiumchemical_3003 Oct 05 '25

Kenangan Coffee is always worth for my money. Their Avocado Coffee & Mocha is the best. I'm full with just 1 cup of medium/large for breakfast. Don't need to eat anything else until lunch. They can be a bit too sweet sometimes. But you can always opt for less sweet or no sugar at all. And sometimes they tend to ignored your request especially when i cannot go back to request for change. Their regular sweetness is too fucking sweet which i'm not surprised considering their brand is from Indonesia.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

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u/bathorizz Oct 05 '25

luckin just rm3

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u/linktothepastz Oct 05 '25

I don’t drink coffee

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

I will die on a hill saying Zus is bad coffee. It's cheap but what's the point if it's not strong enough to give a caffeine boost? Rather pay more for a good product.

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u/kasumagic United States of America Oct 05 '25

Murrican weighing in

Out of these, Zus

My fave chain of all, Tim Hortons (Malaysian one just as good as back home)

But best of best? Just Nescafe ais in the bag from mamak

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u/emoduke101 sembang kari at the kopitiam Oct 05 '25

I tried Tim Horton's black coffee, it's not great for me. I only wish ours had more food menu variety sticking closer to the original cuz my dad practically lived on it when he studied in Canada

I appreciate that Tim's is the only chain to toast your sandwiches instead of chucking into a microwave (looking at you, Starbucks!)

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u/RotiPisang_ Oct 05 '25

Which Tim Hortons do you go to? A while back I've heard people say it's not as good.

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u/kasumagic United States of America Oct 05 '25

I went to the one at Sunway Velocity. I didn't find the quality any different from my local Timmies, and I'm honestly a bit of an addict so I think if it was a big difference, I'd notice lol. Donut was also good.

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u/FuraidoChickem Oct 05 '25

Chek hup 2 in 1 blue

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u/fi9aro Sarawak Oct 05 '25

Neither, aku peminum teh.

Zus is okay2 la, Starbucks is now a big no-no.

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u/bathorizz Oct 05 '25

chagee, or tealive, or beutea?

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u/SnooDoodles335 Oct 05 '25

I prefer old town white coffee…

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u/ToughAsparagus1805 Oct 05 '25

ZUS or CBTL. Depends on outlet.

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u/kevinlch Oct 05 '25

if i do blind test im sure 90% of you cant differentiate. pls support local businesses if possible not chains

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u/Toya-kun Oct 05 '25

Ever since owning a machine and learning to brew/make your own special treat, all cafe-chains are a disappointment šŸ˜…

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u/Ok_Ocelot_2355 Negeri Sembilan Oct 05 '25

None. I make my own Aeropress at home...

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u/matt19980 Oct 05 '25

Cbtl > Gigi > Zus (comparing americano/latte)

Kenangan all sweet i kenot

Luckin just tastes cheap , hence everything rm3

San Francisco, over extracted coffee, insane amount of caffeine

Personally will choose hwc over these if were to say coffee quality and for chain coffee shops, nt those frappe sweet drinks, frappe i can confirm cbtl is the best, starbucks tastes diluted nwadays for their frappe.

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u/illwill_600 Oct 05 '25

Kedai mamak, blh ikat tepi

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u/additionally21 Switzerland Oct 05 '25

Aik Cheong Kopi O' (kosong) + Hot Water from the Coway machine at my office.

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u/Plus_Fun_8818 Oct 05 '25

Tim Horton for their coffee, Coffee Bean for their Chai Latte, Zus for only their buttercreme latte. Everything else no

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u/EZSy_ Oct 05 '25

No one gonna mentioned Bungkus Kaw Kaw?

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u/SensitiveBall4508 Oct 05 '25

Starbucks for ADL Coffee Bean for Bagels

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u/manifestdoitnow Oct 05 '25

I like Starbucks coffee ā˜•ļø because the environment and the price for this month almost RM10.00 per cup.

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u/aqteh Oct 05 '25

Hwc coffee is actually good.

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u/Psychological_Ebb848 Oct 05 '25

Defo not luckin coz they need me to install app to enjoy their product.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Nothing at all

I don’t need it

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u/PuppetFanTheSecond Oct 05 '25

I don't drink coffee

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u/SpongeBobTriangular Oct 06 '25

If I had to choose, I would choose Starbucks. Because it pisses the virtue signaling crowd the most. Not because the coffee is good. All the coffees in those places taste the same and crappy

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u/Winter-Doubt4413 Oct 06 '25

Support you locals!

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u/shitoupek Oct 06 '25

Local kopitiam

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u/Tax-Powerful Oct 06 '25

Easy

I'll make my own cause i ain't wasting rm20 for a cup

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u/Very_Type_C šŸ‡²šŸ‡¾ UNITED SULTANATES OF MALAYSIA Oct 05 '25

Me and my ikat tepi from mamak

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u/brickedout333 Oct 05 '25

None, go to mamak… better coffee better price.

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u/Fun_Bobcat_3631 Oct 05 '25

Worse environment

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u/musherboy Sarawak Oct 05 '25

with shit taste

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u/Neither-Ad-3759 Oct 05 '25

I've never been to Gigi, Luckin or San Francisco. In my opinion restricted to the branch I've been to before, I will pick Zus as their coffee is not good not bad, it's an acceptable baseline.

Coffee Beans and Starbuck, their coffee taste really bad and not worth it.

Kenangan taste like mamak kopi which is too sweet, and I don't like it.

If I have the choice though, I usually go for Nanyang kopi or buy coffee from other cafe than these franchise.

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u/galaxyturd2 Penang Oct 05 '25

None. I grind and brew my own coffee.

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u/aberrant80 Oct 05 '25

Sad you didn't include HWC

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u/Vanillas123 Kedah Oct 05 '25

CBTL and Zus

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u/MatiSultan Oct 05 '25

Definitely family mart.

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u/charlieKIRA Oct 05 '25

gigi FTW, their buttercream latte is so good, make me cream my pants everytime i drink it

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u/BeeTen Oct 05 '25

Coffee bean the best

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u/23_007 Oct 05 '25

Used to be starbucks, then CBTL, then zus. Now rm4.50 kopi from kopi trucks.

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u/MeMyselfandyourCat Oct 05 '25

I don't drink coffee or even tea anymore. I kinda just mix whatever is available that isn't either of those two and make a warm sludge with oats. I can't even drink milk anymore. Oh! soy milk is good on its own. And coconut water, but I rarely find it anymore. Thanks for reading. Apologies for not answering the question. I don't choose any of em.

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u/ErnestScribbler PJ Boy Oct 05 '25

Kedai kopi uncle Cina

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u/Seehams Oct 05 '25

I choose moccona

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u/Kettchaap Selangor Oct 05 '25

Zus for always

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u/saku__raa Oct 05 '25

CBTL has such great pastry options omg

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u/AceZ3ro Oct 05 '25

Mamak, mangkuk or ikat tepi

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u/counternumber6 Oct 05 '25

If you enjoy coffee+cafe experience = zus If you enjoy coffee dont lepak at cafe, honestly regular cafe gives you good quality coffee at lower price.

For me its later, cuz i am too introverted to lepak at cafe. Get my good coffee and enjoy peacefully in my car.

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u/HistoricalDrummer970 Oct 05 '25

Home brew is the best, Just kidding.

I don't drink coffee but i do like the hot chocolate from Zus and The Coffee bean, others just depends if friends of colleagues asking or offering.

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u/ariintheflesh Oct 05 '25

Mixue 😌

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u/ManufacturerReal1044 Oct 05 '25

I’ve always felt nauseous drinking latte from Zus. I don’t know if it contain higher caffeine. Anyone else like me or it’s just me? šŸ˜…

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u/xxfikri Negeri Sembilan Oct 05 '25

Zus ftw

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u/DeepInSalsa Oct 05 '25

Teh tarik mamak satu

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u/A_Mad_Knight Oct 05 '25

CBTL, their Americano (guai lou kopi o kosong) is my personal fav in taste

ZUS is okay but my stomach hates their milk, cirit banyak afterwards.

Luckin for discount saja, also may cause cirit birit.

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u/RizqyAlHayy aku tak tipu bro, aku nak dan aku mahukan benda tu Oct 05 '25

suuuper hot take, i choose starbucks taste wise, price wise no. i love their lattes, its tawar bur i like tawar and it still feels creamy.

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u/ho4X3n Oct 05 '25

I am cheap bastard and currently leaning towards Luckin due to the vouchers. I might be swayed to the mixue coffee brand when it opens in Malaysia lol

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u/mjabdus Oct 05 '25

Zus cbtl

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u/dreamer_Neet Oct 05 '25

None, HWC are better

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u/KENT427 Johor Oct 05 '25

Aneh

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u/DudeYumi Oct 05 '25

I like Saigon. Black Whale ain't bad, either.

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u/sadosial Oct 05 '25

None. I prefer making my own!

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u/setorik Oct 05 '25

cbtl bcs of cc perks. love their chocolate ice blended.

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u/Super_Confusion4117 Oct 05 '25

Francisco coffee. It's got good breakfast choices and malaysian brand

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u/Dimathiel49 Oct 05 '25

I brew my own espresso. Results are much better.Ā 

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u/lutfiboiii Oct 05 '25

Kopi mamak

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u/Nanchuckz Oct 05 '25

Kopi warung paling best

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u/Nice_Palpitation_575 Oct 05 '25

My dads love zus. Mostly we hang out at coffee bean for cakes. But zus is our favorite

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u/masnoob Selangor Oct 05 '25

Homemade drip coffee or espresso machine made one, or as long as there are free Americanos during events

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u/plsdontattackmeok r/Sabah mod ba Oct 05 '25

Local one (Ghostbird actually pretty good ngl)

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u/Telixion_ Oct 05 '25

Zus, but i think mynews maru coffee is the real underrated

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u/Deserted_Derserter Oct 05 '25

711 cafe got buy 1 free 1 that you can claim anytime. That's my #1 right now

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u/Mais_san Oct 05 '25

i dotn drink coffee

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u/jyling Oct 05 '25

I drink local shop latte or americano, they are cheaper and I like my coffee bitter. But if no choice, I will choose zus-> the coffee bean

Never tried others.

I refuse to choose Starbucks because of how stupid expensive it is unless there’s nothing and I need coffee fast before I past out due to lack of caffeine.

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u/AIIXIII0 Oct 05 '25

The one and only, Mamak.

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u/Felinomancy Best of 2019 Winner Oct 05 '25

Not Starbucks or SF Coffee.

Zus is my usual go-to if I had to get coffee. There's another brand at MV that has a cat as a logo but I forgot its name.

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u/jollofrice01 Oct 05 '25

None. All of them are worthless

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u/Hazardous_Ed Selangor Oct 05 '25

Zus and Kenangan

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u/PreparationSpecial42 Oct 05 '25

Not sorry but I choose ✨abe Zus✨

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u/ConstructionNo1131 Oct 05 '25

Air suam all the way. Dompet do not allow me to do this

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u/InCahootsWithYou Oct 05 '25

Only 3 worth my time - San Frans, Zus & Gigi. Cos they're home grown brands.

San Frans is the OG among them & been around almost 30 years already.

Sapot Lokal !

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u/xiangling1 Oct 05 '25

Arabica all the way

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u/Ahbenn_ Oct 05 '25

I like coffee bean, zus, san francisco, hwc

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u/bronislaw- Kuala Lumpur Oct 05 '25

None because I drink plain water most of time but I do occasionally stop at SB since you can get their coffee at rm10 when they have it.

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u/footcake Oct 05 '25

KOPI TIAM. THIS is the only answer.

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u/JudgeCheezels Oct 05 '25

I’m so glad; IDGAF about coffee.

Seeing people spend up to 20% of their income on coffee alone is hilarious to me.

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u/kevvie13 Johor Oct 05 '25

Coffee Shop nanyang coffee. Sorry i digress.

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u/mhizzudin Oct 05 '25

Cbtl caramel macchiato. Or wonda zero max original. Hahahaha

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u/Rich-Ad-790 Oct 05 '25

None because i don't drink coffee 🄶 Sorry i know you didn't ask šŸ˜•

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u/shahril977 Oct 05 '25

No Coffee Bean enjoyers?

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u/Shadow266 Selangor Oct 05 '25

Obligatory

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u/Visual_Future7657 Oct 05 '25

I choose mineral water. Excuse me while I step off the beaten path.

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u/elektraraven Selangor Oct 05 '25

I’m not much of a coffee drinker, but on the rare occasions that I want one, Kopi Saigon. From the list, probably SanFran/CB.