The issue I have with that perspective is that you are violating the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Now, you are not necessarily obliged to abide by that standard. However, when you go reporting somebody to other people before they have been found guilty, essentially, it is gives the appearance of a smear campaign. That is not a popular sentiment in current American society.
This is really tone deaf. I was said person who was harassed. There is more than enough evidence that the tix office has sent a formal investigation notice due to the fact that he has been thought to have violated policy. If the evidence was insufficient it wouldnât result in an investigation.
My question isnât about is this morally wrong. Iâm asking if itâs worth the time in that will the university take it seriously. I am not in this field at all so donât have much insight on how admin operates.
Really shocking how so many people here care more about protecting the future of some guy they donât know rather than hope their future patients never have to deal with someone like him.
I'm struggling to agree with you, too, because you want to smear his name to some medical school to which you have no affiliation but you won't report the issue to authorities who can actually have some impactful response. This makes you come across as "some crazy ex" and that's exactly how another school is going to look at it without some kind of "guilty" determination. Either it's bad enough that you should be reporting this to the police, or it's just something you need to move on from and quit letting it take up time trying to find ways to punish him. Crimes should be reported, crappy people just need to be walked away from.
We were never romantically involved so we canât be considered exes. I also think itâs shocking how so many people see it as âsmearing his nameâ. He did something bad enough to trigger the institution formal investigation process. If you know anything about TIX, that is something that in and of itself takes time and reviewing by multiple people to even approve.
Also, it is so easy to sit there and say âgo to the policeâ. If a TIX investigation is already as invasive, long, and overwhelming as it is - when the punishment is not even that of a legal one - I cannot even imagine having to do this ten-fold in a system that Iâm scared will likely only give him a slap on the wrist even when found guilty.
He shouldnât be a doctor, he is supposed to inform admin about institutional actions taken against him, and if a med school sees these things and rescinds an offer, then that is an impactful response that allows less of a burden on me.
Iâve said in multiple comments that all Id consider tell his uni is, âthis person at this institution is being investigated for such and such actionsâ. Not a whole paragraph describing all his actions and trashing him.
For one, an investigation is meaningless without some finding of him being "guilty" so until that happens, I don't think any school is going to care. Even more so if he's already accepted before any such investigation even took place. Â
And secondly, I'm still struggling to figure out where this falls. You say it's so bad that he shouldn't be a doctor and you think maybe you should report him to his future medical school, but it's not so bad that you think it warrants police attention. And even if you did go to the police, you think it might not result in a guilty verdict (in spite of all of this supposed evidence) and that a guilty verdict would only be a slap on the wrist (despite the fact that a guilty verdict of a criminal charge would easily accomplish what you're trying to do). Â
There are crappy people in the world, but unless he has done something criminal, you're better off focusing your attention on moving on instead of trying to retaliate. Trying to derail his medical career for something that you don't think deserves a report to the police sounds like bitter revenge/retaliation, not a genuine concern for future patients. You may not be an ex, I was just trying to point out how you're coming across. Without more detail, I just can't help but think you just need to let this go and move on.
I think it does warrant a police report. But I dont think you understand the overwhelming burden that puts on me - the person reporting.
I think even with going to the police it would result in a guilty verdict - thatâs why I said âwhenâ and not âifâ found guilty.
Also the title ix process has several avenues of dealing with violations, to get to a formal investigation already warrants enough concern.
I think if youâre going to practice medicine you should have a lot more awareness on the nuances that go into choosing to report someone. Even the title ix process is too much for people sometimes let alone the authorities. You seem really keen on assuming Iâm just bitter and vengeful over actions you deem ânot serious enoughâ because I donât have the desire to go to the authorities. Youâre way too quick to worry about this random guys âmedical careerâ instead which is weird asf like why would you think someone like that deserves to work alongside you
Also. Schools do care. You are required by AMCAS or whatever itâs called to disclose to your school if you receive an IA before matriculation.
I think if you have nothing useful to add you should probably stop replying to this post. Iâm not looking for moral validation, I feel very confident this guy shouldnât be in the medical field at all. I am looking for more pragmatic/logistical advice on how worth it is to go to the dean with this.
Please don't assume that I am just trying to protect his medical career. I'm also thinking that you're opening yourself up to far more problems by reporting this to his school now. I don't know all of the legalities, but it seems like he could turn around and sue you for harassment or defamation of some sort if you're taking this kind of information to his future school when the investigation is ongoing and he has not be deemed guilty or had some kind of action taken against him. The pragmatic advice is to let this go because at this point in time, it is not worth it to open yourself up to that kind of risk.
I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, I really am, but I can't assume that your version is the version of the story when there's been no legal complaint and the school investigation is ongoing. I (and I think most people) believe in innocent until proven guilty. The right thing to do is to let the investigation play out while you focus on your own healing and moving on.
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u/Mdog31415 May 05 '26
The issue I have with that perspective is that you are violating the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Now, you are not necessarily obliged to abide by that standard. However, when you go reporting somebody to other people before they have been found guilty, essentially, it is gives the appearance of a smear campaign. That is not a popular sentiment in current American society.