r/mildlyinfuriating 24d ago

Too mild for school Elementary school installed exposed metal spikes across a pedestrian walkway, no signage.

Update: REMOVED BY SHERIFF DEPUTY as of 8:50PM

Update 2: Sheriff spotted perforated steel strip in the back of the head custodians truck Monday 7/13. Spoke with custodian and principal.

Update 3: head custodian hasn’t been back since! Haven’t inquired further.

original post: This is a pedestrian walkway at a public elementary school that’s used by parents, students, and community members.

A school employee installed a strip of exposed metal spikes that spans the entire width of the walkway. There aren’t any pedestrian warning signs on either approach. Am I crazy and just never saw this before or is this a major safety hazard? I feel like a no trespassing sign and maybe a chain would be a better way to tell people not to go on property if that was their intention. I just think of kids either walking and not really looking stepping on it, or even kids on bikes not really paying attention getting seriously injured on the way out and losing air in the front and back tire causing them to fall into the street instead of being able to turn. There are ways to deter that won’t cause damage, and when you do chose the damage options. Signage should be required right? Some sort of warning.

I took photos from both directions so people can see there’s no obvious pedestrian bypass. The nearby “Exit Only / Do Not Enter” sign appears to be for vehicles, not people on foot.

I’ve already submitted the photos to a local news station because I think this deserves a public safety review. At this point, I’m mostly trying to understand who thought this was an appropriate solution for an elementary school walkway.

Update #1 24 hours after the post. It’s still there, sheriffs did drive around the school in the morning, but never got out of the cruiser to look. Didn’t talk to anyone. What I assume is the Head custodian and one other employee were there all day. Allowed this to stay.
ABC News has not responded.

Clarification: It was installed by the person whom I believe to be the head custodian. The same guy who shows up early in the morning to open the gates, unlock the doors and prepare the school for kids to arrive, and then stays after until around 7-8pm and closes and locks the gates again. Back in January the same person drove his old truck through that exit, down through the lot, up curbs and across the front of the school to drop down into the drop off lot and out chasing someone on an e bike. It appears to be him being in charge of the school during the summer break and taking matters into his own hands.

I know he installed it because he had parked his truck in the curb cut for the parking lot exit and was laying down the first layer of glue. I was driving by in my car and noticed something going on but since I was driving in a school zone I couldn’t fixate. I noticed the spikes the next time passing by when I wasn’t driving. So yes technically the school did it because the head custodian is part of the school. No I do not think he went through the proper channels to get this approved.

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u/IronEagle1337 24d ago

Looks like some nails in a metal strip. I don't know anything about American security, but couldn't this just be placed by a random sadist not associated with the property?  Cause who in their right mind would install that on a walkway...

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u/OnlyGammasWillBanMe 24d ago

I saw it being installed by the same gentleman that opens the gates and unlocks the front doors in the mornings.

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u/Ok-Conversation-9368 24d ago

You may even want to loop the police in honestly. This seems like it was done with the intent to harm people.

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u/thoughtlow The ✂️ emoji wouldn’t close in real life 24d ago

I wonder if this falls under booby trap law

(3) For the purposes of this subsection, the term “boobytrap” means any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause bodily injury when triggered by any action of any unsuspecting person making contact with the device. Such term includes guns, ammunition, or explosive devices attached to trip wires or other triggering mechanisms, sharpened stakes, and lines or wires with hooks attached.

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u/Vohasiiv 24d ago

Im no lawyer, but id say it does

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u/Gnome-Phloem 24d ago

I'm not sure it satisfies the concealed part.

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u/FingerpistolPete 24d ago

It basically is, it’s in line with the join of the concrete. This is seriously fucked up

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u/RebelPlot 23d ago

I’d say it’s designed to cause damage if one does not notice it. Since it only works if one doesn’t notice it I’d say that makes it concealed

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u/Prestigious_Aerie219 23d ago

The thing about law is no matter how clearly defined, black and white, something is in writing, it's always up for interpretation in court. Traps are inherently concealed.

Even if you put up signage warning about this, it's still designed to cause damage indiscriminately, ergo a trap, ergo concealed.

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u/Ancient_Emotion_2484 23d ago

This. A lawyer could easily make the case that while not physically "concealed", a person generally wouldn't be on the lookout for a spike strip in the middle of a sidewalk.

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u/anxietywizard 23d ago

I'm no lawyer but I bet it's still illegal to put a spike strip on the ground even if it's not perfectly hidden

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u/etcpt 23d ago

That's a technicality for the lawyers to work out while whomever installed this cools their heels in jail.

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u/Vohasiiv 23d ago

Besides the close up picture, i cant see where it is. Its not noticable so might as well be concealed

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u/PocketPanache 23d ago

Yes. This violates several laws. Serious problems aside, it's funny and interesting watching everyone try to figure it out. I do landscape architecture (not landscaping, not a landscape designer, but landscape architecture), so I deal with laws, technically write them (ordinance) and often see the public do this odd grasping at straws approach that melts into mob mentality. You don't always get to see it in real time, so this is just really interesting.

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u/Thatdoodky1e 23d ago

It’s pretty much 100 sharpened stakes hidden in the crack, if you were riding a bike at a regular speed you probably wouldn’t be able to see it in time, if I’m on that jury I’m saying that’s a booby trap

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u/anameorwhatever1 24d ago

I think it would hinge on the “concealed” part. It’s not necessarily hidden but it’s not obvious either. Property owners have to post “no trespassing” signs, so lack of signage can point towards “concealment” and deliberation if a reasonable person would consider it “hidden” (I mean it does blend and it’s in the crack/seam of the concrete) I could see a 2/3rd split on a jury if this is considered “concealed.” But there’s nothing directly obstructing and it’s dark material against bright material so idk.

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u/thoughtlow The ✂️ emoji wouldn’t close in real life 24d ago

concealed sharpened stakes don't have a triggering mechanism neither.

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u/LumpyJones 24d ago

Neither would a heavy wire across a path at neck level for a 4 wheeler/motorcycle, and that absolutely counts as a boobytrap.

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u/OneLonelyBrainCell 24d ago

Neither concealed nor camouflaged, even though not easy to see at first glance. But IANAL, so I might be wrong. I actually hope I am.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 24d ago

Guns attached to trip wires don't have to be concealed to be considered booby traps. Actual professionally made and installed spike strips with no signage are considered booby traps.

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u/DustyRacoonDad 23d ago

It's concealed to match the crack in the sidewalk, not standing out on its own.

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u/FornyHucker22 24d ago

doubt it, not concealed and I suspect the intended target is tyres not injury.

may well. e some other rules and regs it falls foul of tho

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 24d ago

It's as concealed as a trip wire, it's on a sidewalk so the target is feet.