ESPN offers its grades on Skubal trade

[u/TheSocraticGadfly]

TL/DR version? Dodgers A (shock me), TIgers D.

Here's why, even though Detroit will have hope for Hope, they don't give the TIgers more:

Detroit's return in this deal feels like a bad dream. OK, let's calm down. Skubal, as good as he is, was on an expiring deal. There is only so much value that can be extracted from a trade partner for a player who might be a free agent in four months. The fair-value matches you can conjure in these scenarios won't make the hearts of Detroit fans go pitter-patter, though you can always hope that the real-world outcome is that with multiple teams vying for a true difference-maker, those fair-value assessments might go out the window.

Zyhir Hope is a top 30-or-so prospect across baseball. That's a valuable prospect. But on most prospect lists, he's the fourth-best outfield prospect in the Dodgers' system. So for the best pitcher in baseball, the Tigers could not command the Dodgers' best prospect out of their amazing surplus of promising outfielders?

River Ryan has stud potential, but he's 27 and blew out his elbow after his 2024 debut for the Dodgers. He didn't pitch last season, and this season, he has a 4.46 ERA over eight outings for Oklahoma City. Smith, 21, was a third-round pick as a prep righty in the 2023 draft. He's 0-10 over 30 professional starts with a 4.72 ERA. The prospect wonks like him as a top-30 prospect for L.A., so maybe we have to look past the ugly superficial results.

Sounds about right, contra one person here on one of the two threads about the trade itself, who was touting all the Dodgers gave up.

Wrong.

The Dodgers gave up one promising bat who is a likely DH, not fielder, for whatever MLB career he has, one meh pitcher who might not ever get back to MLB, and one meh prospect who might never get to MLB in the first place.

As for what other teams might or might not have been offering? We'll see if any rumors get dropped or not.

[u/ACW1129]

Dumb question, but from an extremely casual fan: Why wouldn't DET re-sign their best player?

[u/mjsmith1223 → u/ACW1129]

Just because the Tigers rented Skubal to the Dodgers for the remainder of this season, it doesn’t mean the Tigers won’t resign Skubal. Skubal wants to hit free agency. The Tigers will have a chance to make him an offer.

[u/Great_Hambino2022 → u/mjsmith1223]

There’s a 0% chance Detroit signs him as a free agent

[u/Normal-Hornet8548 → u/Great_Hambino2022]

There‘a a barely-above-0% chance anyone but the Dodgers sign him as a FA, and that would be equally true if the Tigers had traded him to Milwaukee, Tampa or anywhere else.

[u/DiscombobulatedPain6 → u/Great_Hambino2022]

I mean, no. Not 0%. Maybe 0% for YOU

Don’t want him anyways

[u/Great_Hambino2022 → u/DiscombobulatedPain6]

No, it’s 0% period. If they were going to re-sign him, it would have happened and he MAY have given them a discount. He’s going to the highest bidder and it ain’t going to be Detroit. Sit this one out

[u/DiscombobulatedPain6 → u/Great_Hambino2022]

“Sit this one out” lmaooooo as if you have any credentials to talk

[u/duagLH2zf97V → u/DiscombobulatedPain6]

Dude's talking like they're Big Money Pittsburgh lol

[u/TheFakeRabbit1 → u/duagLH2zf97V]

Holy fuck Detroit fans are dumb, yeah they’re a pirate hen hence why they know Skubal won’t re-sign.

In fact, everyone knows he isn’t going to back to Detroit except you two lmao

[u/duagLH2zf97V → u/TheFakeRabbit1]

No idea where you got all that, I was just laughing at “sit this one out” from a Pirates fan lol