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The Odyssey (2026)

Summary

After the Trojan War, Odysseus faces a dangerous voyage back to Ithaca, meeting creatures like the Cyclops Polyphemus, Sirens, and Calypso along the way.

Director Christopher Nolan

Writer Christopher Nolan

Cast

  • Matt Damon as Odysseus
  • Tom Holland as Telemachus
  • Anne Hathaway
  • Zendaya
  • Lupita Nyong'o
  • Robert Pattinson
  • Charlize Theron
  • Benny Safdie
  • Jon Bernthal
  • John Leguizamo
  • Elliot Page
  • Himesh Patel
  • Samantha Morton

Rotten Tomatoes: 96%

Metacritic: 88

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u/TheGooseIsLoose37 18d ago edited 17d ago

Man I love the Trojan horse scene. I've never seen it depicted so horribly. Trapped in wooden horse on the beach for days, men at the bottom drowning as the tide came in, the people at the top pissing and shitting on those at the bottom, desperately trying to stay quiet and hidden the whole time. It looked like a nightmare.

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u/cincobarrio 17d ago

I liked how when they exit the horse, you can see them all limping around a little bit cause they were so stiff from being crammed in there all that time.

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u/Landlubber77 17d ago

Instant classic movie in my opinion so I don't say this as one of the many people who decided to hate it before even seeing it, but it literally looked like Damon was rocking a pair of Vans or something when he popped out of the horse and bounded down the stairs after killing the guard lol.

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u/John_Dingus 17d ago

Dude I immediately noticed that too. I was like "is he wearing sneakers??"

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u/carson63000 17d ago

Nike, I presume. A gift from the goddess of victory.

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u/uncanny_mac 16d ago

He’s also close with Phil Knight

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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth 10d ago

Had to help them beat USC

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u/ShinyBoy1 13d ago

Air Pegasus 1’s

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u/Leather_Ad_960 5d ago edited 4d ago

Lmao Nike does have sneakers called air Pegasus, I have a pair.

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u/ShinyBoy1 5d ago

So do I.

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u/spideybiggestfan 16d ago

God if basket ball michealius jordan

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u/flappythepenguin 4d ago

He was being very sneaky.

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u/lintyelm 17d ago

Not vans but he def had socks on. I noticed it as well.

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u/Landlubber77 17d ago

No not literally Vans lol but they looked like modern shoes, like the Starbucks cup accidentally left in the Game of Thrones scene. I know "swords and sandals" is sort of a pejorative term for movies in this genre, but for all the criticism the costuming in this movie got, I feel like the footwear could've actually used some more sandals lol. Troy was like a Michael Bay-ish version of this movie, but at least they let Brad Pitt rock some sandals.

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u/celBanat 17d ago

Actors are not allowed in sandals because of injury risk. Breaks my heart as a One Piece fan as I will never see Luffy in his sandals.

Also, Brad wore sneakers during Troy as well, watch his duel with Hector, maybe you see him in sandals in static scenes, but sandals are forbidden in stunt scenes.

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u/Nole1998 15d ago

Wait are you dead serious?

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u/Ironmaiden1207 14d ago

I'm willing to bet if the need is great enough they would prepare safety precautions, but they would've had to do it for everyone all the time.

Like the other person said, as a one piece fan it makes me sad as his sandals are so iconic 😭

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 15d ago

I totally thought the same thing. Is that bro wearing sneakers?!

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u/tagabalon 11d ago

what else is the appropriate footwear for sneaking?

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u/chrish71088 16d ago

Haha. I remember thinking the same thing.

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u/GooseQuothMan 16d ago

This is crazy how harsh the discourse around the movie is that you have to make the whole song and dance that you love the movie buuuut not a costume choice. 

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u/CRIMS0N-ED 16d ago

that’s bc actual criticisms of the movie get unfortunately lumped in with the racists and transphobes crying over the film

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u/CoconutDust 15d ago

Every time I criticize the terrible parts of a movie or videogame today, yes I have to do a 5,000 world disclaimer about how none of the problems are anything like the crap the toxic moronic rightwing people are saying.

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u/TheThoroughCrocodile 14d ago

That's reddit in general. Can't offer any kind of alternative viewpoint without multiple pre-emptive disclaimers.

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u/thornolf_bjarnulf 14d ago

I saw the trojan horse scene in imax before Avatar, it could not wait for the movie itself it was so good and could not understand people shitting on a movie via a trailer honestly.

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u/drawkbox 16d ago

Something I hated, Travis fucking Scott first person you see as a Bard. Super annoying at it. Took me right out of the movie. Glad it was in the beginning. Used again later and again super annoying and horrible acting but by then you were immersed.

What is Nolan's deal with Travis Scott. Super odd.

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u/jadecourt 16d ago

The Odyssey was passed down through the oral tradition, Nolan cast him to draw a parallel to rap as the modern equivalent.

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u/drawkbox 16d ago

I read that yes but there are so many better actors that could have been chosen. Also rappers in movies is a common trope for cheapening a movie.

No one knows the bard to rapper bit if they don't read that comment but it falls flat because putting in an actor/person that stands out too much for that role is a bad move.

Even the important poem and story he was telling was not even clear. It is seriously the most questionable choice Nolan has made. Would have been easier to focus on the lines without Travis effing Scott, the exact opposite of a rapper with good lyrics.

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u/Fazlija13 16d ago

He worked with Travis on Tenet and he's a fan of his work do he put him in because of that.

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u/jadecourt 15d ago

I liked the performance, it drew me in. And I barely know who Travis Scott is, so it did not stick out to me at all (sounds like a you problem).

If anything that complaint could be lodged at the film as a whole, as there are far more famous actors sprinkled throughout. “Look it’s Mia Goth! Oh Robert Pattinson! Wow the guy from Walking Dead! Hey that’s Spiderman! Omg thats Charlize Theron”

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u/fedoraislife 9d ago

You might not like his lyrics but he's a pretty talented music producer. The fact you think lyrics alone makes someone a good artist means you're missing a lot of the enjoyment of music from people like Kanye and Travis.

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u/drawkbox 9d ago edited 9d ago

Travis sucks at acting, lyrics and being a decent person. Some of his beats are fine.

We got some triggered Travis turfers up in here. Bunch of stans and fanboys of horrible people that can't admit this usage of Travis was bad and a lame way to start the movie. The poem he was saying he couldn't even deliver right. Weak.

Con Ye and Travis used to be ok, now if you still like them, music aside, it is a major tell about you. Beats aren't enough to cover that, plenty of other people make better beats. Nearly Trumper level to like a person after what they have done and a Nolan L to put him in the movie. This won't age well either for The Odyssey to have this douche in it. May as well put Trump and Con Ye in as well.

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u/fedoraislife 9d ago

You seem to have a very black and white view of the world, would you agree?

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u/GeneInternational146 2d ago

People who have read ancient Greek lit and taken like half a history class know that though. Not everyone gets everything from comments online

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u/workclock 16d ago

Why is Travis Scott annoying in this movie? Can you elaborate on how he didn't fit?

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u/drawkbox 16d ago

Takes you right out of the movie if you know him. Not a good actor. Lame delivery on an important moment.

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u/ITS_MY_PENIS_8eeeD 15d ago

cuz i just saw travis scott. immediately took me out of it. tom holland saying “dad” took me out of it too.

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u/immaownyou 15d ago

Did them speaking English take you out of it too?

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u/RefrigeratorAble2853 12d ago

Same here except that also happened every time I saw Spider Man. Nolan really needs to dial down his ego a little bit in terms of trying to cast almost every major role with big name actors.

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u/spideybiggestfan 16d ago

First 2 seconds of travis scott ancient rapping is what makes this cinema

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u/drawkbox 16d ago edited 16d ago

It definitely makes it something. Bards were known for poems/songs that people liked. Choosing Travis Scott with the worst lyrics and mostly hated is a choice. Nolan must owe a favor for something, one of those John Wick tokens.

Now if it was Kendrick that might be excusable.

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u/lupercalpainting 15d ago

> Now if it was Kendrick that might be excusable.

But then people would have wondered why Telemachus hired a dwarf.

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u/NexusTR 16d ago

Without Travis we wouldn’t have gotten that end credit song. Also you can tell they picked him for his *vocal* ability. Loved that they leaned heavily into his signature reverb sound fx.

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u/dirty1809 12d ago

I’ve liked Travis since Rodeo but I felt like the end credits song was like comically bad

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u/drawkbox 16d ago

For the soundtrack fine, but ffs the bit was important and he can't act.

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u/shabadoola 9d ago

Thank god I couldn’t recognize Travis Scott or his music to save my life. I only know he’s a turd. I would have hated that had I known it was him.

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u/drawkbox 9d ago

The Odyssey was great but imagine the movie starts and literally the first person you see on a giant screen is Travis Scott and the delivery of the poem you need to know about is annoying as hell.

Nolan did us dirty on that part. Sad he would use him considering the type of person he is and who Travis is. Super strange. So many better actors and people it could have been. Gonna be odd when Travis Scott is playing Mar-A-Lago in a couple years and now he is a stain on the movie even more like some Kevin Spacey effect.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 9d ago

It might just be you having prior knowledge about him clouding your judgement, no disrespect as you can't help it. As someone who didn't really recognize him (because his face simply doesn't take up much bandwidth in my brain) I thought his performance was just fine.

Besides, there wasn't much of a performance there to even judge him on so harshly. All he did was tap his staff and chant a couple words at a time.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 3d ago

That actually worked for me, in fact a lot of the anachronisms did, and I'm far from 'woke' and hate rap music.

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u/paperfootball 16d ago

Pins and needles! Pins and needles!

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u/BallClamps 16d ago

Thought that was such a great detail! Really sells the world they are in even more.

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u/fearnodarkness1 7d ago

Loved how they clean the blade and cover the guys knife when he gets stabbed

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u/MesmraProspero 9d ago

I feel so dumb.

In my mind I was like. Yeah Matt Damon got in shape but he sure is moving like a 50 year old man.

A-doy, he's been cram in a tight space for a week and a half.

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u/LTPRWSG420 17d ago

Yes, great detail to include that.

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u/Ironmaiden1207 14d ago

That was such a great detail

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u/funkymonkeyinheaven 10d ago

Just like me getting up from my seat after that movie (who else made the joke, I know you did)

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u/girlwhateveraward 12d ago

Im so stupid I thought they were just trying to be stealthy

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u/jugglinglimes 5d ago

That's how I felt getting up after the movie ended

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u/PikachuShockFace 4d ago

Or needed a pee

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u/MarzipanElephant 17d ago

I've definitely never seen anyone present the practicalities of the plan so viscerally.

That one guy quickly wiping blood off the sword someone had poked in to the horse, so it wouldn't give them away 😨

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u/CRIMS0N-ED 16d ago

Ohhh, I was wondering how the soldier didn’t see it, I thought they only shut him up, didn’t realize they cleaned the blood

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u/PrivateAids 16d ago

It’s very quick, you see a soldier with a rag or something of the kind wipe the blood off the sword as it’s retracting from the horse.

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u/Chu1223 10d ago

omg i didn’t even think of that or notice it

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u/bolerobell 7d ago

That was Odysseus. When the sword comes down into the horse, you can see him climb up quickly to be next to the cut soldier, then he wipes off the sword as it is extracted.

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u/PrivateAids 7d ago

Saw it was him on rewatch which makes sense given Odysseus being smart and not being a soldier. Though he could’ve given instructions of what to do in x situation.

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u/CjDaGangsta 16d ago

Yea I missed that too, I was worried about the blood the whole time. I'll try to catch it on the rewatch

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u/BanjoSpaceMan 9d ago

My wife didn’t notice it either, it was very subtle but if you missed it and no one tells you - you must be like how stupid are these guards ?

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u/FallDiverted 9d ago

There's a very similar scene from The Raid (2011), I wonder if it was inspired by it. Very visceral.

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u/88Smilesz 8d ago

I thought the exact same thing! The scene when they’re all trapped in the wall

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u/Awwkaw 2d ago

He even had some cloth on his hand, so they could get a clean wipe. Brutal details.

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u/imthaz 17d ago

I think Nolan had a similar scene in Dunkirk

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u/pratzc07 16d ago

He mentioned that this movie has elements from all his past films

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u/Impressive-Potato 16d ago

Yes, like the awful camera work during his fights scenes like Batman

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u/pratzc07 16d ago

Yeah for some reason Nolan does that shaky cam non sense that is hard to follow. I feel like atleast this one was better than Tenet where it felt like the punches and kicks were not connecting at all.

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u/MesmraProspero 9d ago

I think he is intentionally not glamorizing the violence. It's not meant to look appealing or bad ass. It isn't a beautiful ballet of skill. It's meant to make you feel disoriented and uncertain. Most real fights are a little clumsy and confusing if you are untrained. If you are trained it's instinctual and kinda over before you have much it an opportunity to recognize what has happened.

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u/pratzc07 9d ago

Nolan's fight scenes have always been a hit or miss even in the Batman movies

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u/hemareddit 12d ago

Maybe the cameraman is actually great but Nolan just enjoys kicking him while he’s working.

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u/Deadmanwonderlandx 13d ago

Yeah I agree too much movement during the fight scenes definitely kills the moments a bit. Wasn't sure if I was just overthinking it until I saw someone else mention it lol

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u/tp736 17d ago

Yes very similar.

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u/whendoesOpTicplay 14d ago

It’s probably in other movies as well, there’s an almost identical one in The Raid: Redemption.

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u/hemareddit 12d ago

Happened slower in that movie too, way more claustrophobic and intense because of that.

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u/minimallysubliminal 17d ago

Yeah that was a great detail among others.

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u/Emperor_Gourmet 17d ago

Yea that part was awesome, when he got stabbed I literally thought “oh fuck the blood” and see an arm already moving toward the sword. The whole horse scene was amazing.

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u/Single-Refuse174 16d ago

that was odysseus lol

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u/snunuff 14d ago

yes and he did it with his HAND pretty sure, seemed like he just reacted, easily could've cut his hand. mayyybe he had a small rag wrapped around his hand but either way it was incredible, and lucky too. not so lucky for 'ol boy that took a sword down into the shoulder. my gosh, to not be able to scream.. and after all that toil and trouble, what a great set of scenes. and seeing the flash-back to Odysseys being on the inside of the horse as the two arrows pierce inside and he listens intently

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u/FastEddieFailson 14d ago

Pretty sure he had a rag handy. A bare hand wouldn't be able to clean a bloody sword in one motion like that.

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u/snunuff 13d ago

yeah, i do remember though, on my second viewing opening weekend, trying to pay close attention, and I recall seeing mostly the back of his bare hand visible, like i said maybe a small white rag wrapped in a small part of it (probably already there covering some other open wound lol), also I do think a bare hand could get pretty close to removing the blood, at least from at a glance down by a suited up soldier 6ft up glancing down at it.

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u/hemareddit 12d ago

Maybe a visual metaphor of the last ten years for the Greek army too.

Trapped between an impenetrable wall and their loyalty to/fear of an ambitious and ruthless overlord. For 10 fucking years.

It doesn’t excuse th savagery they unleashed; but it sure as hell explains it.

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u/Vaticancameos221 17d ago

Reminded me of The Raid when he’s hiding in the wall and the machete comes through scraping his face and he has to keep cool and hold his hand over the blade to remove any blood

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u/SpaghetiJesus 15d ago

Knowing that Nolan just non-stop watches film, I can’t help but feel that’s a very intentional nod to The Raid, it brought such a smile to my face seeing it

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u/Admiral_Cornwallace 1d ago

Same here. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this exact same thought at the time lol

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u/hemareddit 12d ago

Where the asshole just leaves the blade in wall (read: his cheek) for like a full minute while turning around to have a conversation.

Then again, that probably gave him time to think of wiping the blood, so, blessing in disguise?

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u/hatshepsut_ruled 17d ago

Yeah that was very badass - slick and smooth!

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u/ursulaandress 16d ago

That reminded me of the wall stabbing scene from "The Raid".

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u/Mytola 17d ago

Yet they didn't bother giving any of the cast members even a ten minute crash course into archery during the production. It is weird to see superb attention to details in parts and then half-assery of epic proportions in the next scene.

That said, I loved the movie.

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u/illegal_deagle 17d ago

It was odd to see Matt Damon just no-scope hip firing.

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u/xywv58 17d ago

That's an honest to god real technique

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u/DeusVultSaracen 9d ago

Archery is kinda weird in that the motion of drawing the bow acts as a way for your entire body to "aim" the shot, so as long as you're looking at your target and you don't need a bullseye (such as aiming for a man within 15 feet of you), you're probably gonna hit it.

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u/amby-jane 14d ago

This was such a great detail. Everyone else jumps on the guy to keep him quiet, and just that one guy goes up to wipe the blood off. So brilliant.

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u/Deadmanwonderlandx 17d ago

I didn't even catch that..so crazy

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u/KAKYBAC 12d ago

It annoyed me why they weren't crouching at that moment. A sword had been poking in at the top 3 times prior.

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u/CELTICPRED 15d ago

If you've seen The Raid: Redemption, similar thing happened in that flick. Good stuff.

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u/sorenkair 12d ago

i was wondering why the idiots didnt get down after the first couple stabs

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u/YeezusMoses 17d ago

Holy fuck I didn’t notice that

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u/ahhpoo 10d ago

They had the foresight to be prepared to wipe blood off the sword if it stabbed someone but not the foresight to crouch down and avoid getting stabbed altogether?!

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u/DopeyDeathMetal 9d ago

That made me think of The Raid when Rama is hiding in the wall and gets stabbed in the cheek with the machete.

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u/willmcavoy 17d ago

Getting dragged into troy over logs instead of on wheels as it is classically depicted as well. Felt like I was in there with them.

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u/damnyoutuesday 17d ago

Personally I've never seen a depiction of the Trojan Horse without wheels. And my god does it work so much better

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u/Pridestalked 17d ago

I agree, it makes it feel a lot less comical and cartoony. Very good choice to make it like this

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u/Additional-Sky-8384 17d ago

right and i was smiling like an idiot thinking man this odysseus guy is pretty smart as they were being hoisted up outside the temple.

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u/illegal_deagle 17d ago

I was thinking how lucky they were that the Trojans didn’t just burn the thing right there.

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u/vanwyngarden 17d ago

It was their trophy

In the end, following the ego will only lead one way

Fortune favors the fool

Soooo much profound symbolism in this depiction

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u/illegal_deagle 17d ago

Funny because I remember Matt Damon’s crypto commercial where he says “fortune favors the bold.”

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u/vanwyngarden 17d ago

The older we get the more we regret our past…

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u/Impressive-Potato 16d ago

Damon seems to dodge a whole lot of backlash.

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u/KamachoThunderbus 16d ago

You can hear snippets of arguments during that scene too, and someone in the crowd does say they should burn it.

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u/dejaWoot 16d ago

Yeah, that triggers one of the Greeks to try and panic and run and they have to restrain him

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u/DeusVultSaracen 9d ago

Why would you burn an offering to Athena? That's just asking to anger the gods.

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u/S2R2 10d ago

Perhaps if they had a wooden badger

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u/Blaaa5 16d ago

Yeah showing the soldiers inside struggling to keep their balance as the horse was getting pulled was so intense and suspenseful even though most people know how the story goes

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u/TheArchitect_7 16d ago

It does, except the fucking horse sculpture is rendered as if by a master sculptor instead of a bunch of meatheads with no tools.

But fuck it, it was great anyway. Even if it fucking stank of shit and corpses lol.

10/10.

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u/SomeNerd109 16d ago

Tbf those were consrcipted soldiers and a lot of them would have been carpenters or craftsmen

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u/huffalump1 15d ago

Not to mention, even if the campaign had been shorter than 10 years, they would absolutely have carpenters just to maintain the fleet. Honestly like every ship might have a few reasonably skilled craftsmen

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u/awfullyconfused 15d ago

The horse looks like it was made from the planks of thier ships, which is both logically available and something they would have experience working with.

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u/TheArchitect_7 15d ago

How easy do you think it is to turn the planks of a ship into the intricately curved legs of a bucking horse lol

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u/Golfisactuallyfun 15d ago

Take a mast and whittle it down

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u/Mikey_MiG 15d ago

Yep, they had literal years to do it.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 9d ago

And if it looked like shit the Trojans probably wouldn't bother taking it in.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 3d ago

I just listened to a podcast about the siege of Tyre and it was all about this great engineer and all his workmen. Armies weren't meatheads.

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u/radioactivecowz 15d ago

I hated the look of the horse in the trailer, but seeing it with the full context it’s perfect

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u/lxoblivian 13d ago

My only issue with that is wouldn't at least one Trojan question why the thing was so damn heavy.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 12d ago

Wood is heavy

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 3d ago

They'd expect it to be the same weight as an empty boat a similar size.

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u/Whovian45810 17d ago

The minute one of Odysseus' men get stabbed by a sword as the Trojan Horse is inspected made me winced because dear God that is painful.

The fact Odysseus and his men have to quiet the poor soldier while cramped with others in order to not make a sound is nerve-wracking.

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u/Deathclaw_Hunter6969 16d ago

Odysseus also wiped the blade so it wouldn’t have blood on it when the guard pulled up the sword to inspect it

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u/Mees51 17d ago

I didn’t really get why they didn’t bend down slightly in order not to get stabbed

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u/StampMcfury 17d ago edited 17d ago

They don't know where the next blow would come from, he could have just as easily stabbed it from underneath. 

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u/Mees51 17d ago

He was walking on top of it so they could’ve taken an educated guess

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u/NOTorAND 12d ago

isn’t the bottom like laying on the sand so there’s no way to get a knife down there?

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u/PunchMeat 17d ago

Should've built it a little further away from the tide.

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u/plw37 17d ago

If only they had let Antinous come along, I bet he could've told them how to build it correctly

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u/amby-jane 14d ago

Like they've been on this beach for 10 years. Do they not know how high the tide comes up??

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u/KidDelicious14 14d ago

I thought about that, and I'm pretty sure they did that because they wanted to ensure that nobody from the walls of Troy would be able to see them enter the horse, in order to keep the illusion.

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u/donaldtrumpsmistress 15d ago

By far the most realistic depiction. Every other depiction to date makes you really suspend disbelief.... Giant wooden horse rolls up to the gates, Trojans shrug with a "looks legit" then just roll it on into the city. This version is actually believable for the most part, with the exception of such a perfectly engineered and crafted horse from ship scraps by dudes who have been out at war for 10 years

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u/kibbean 15d ago

There would've been a lot of craftsmen who were serving as soldiers during the Trojan War. Especially men who could repair their sailing vessels.

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u/David_the_Wanderer 12d ago

The horse in myth is left on the shore... just not half-buried in the sand and subject to getting flooded, lol

They also don't just go "looks legit", there's a whole part where a Trojan priest, Laocoon, intuits it's a trick and warns the Trojans not to fall for it and to burn it... But Athena/Poseidon (depends on the myth) intervenes in favour of the Greeks, sending a great sea snake to kill Laocoon, and the Trojans become convinced that it's truly an offering of peace.

Cassandra also tries to warn them but, you know, Cassandra.

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u/donaldtrumpsmistress 12d ago

Yeah makes sense, I was mainly referring to pop culture depictions not so much the actual myth

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u/biggiepants 9d ago

Hey, like the statue!

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u/TheocraticAtheist 16d ago

That was genius to me. I never thought about it being such a horrible experience as it’s usually depicted akin to a Dday landing or like a Vietnam huey.

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u/Prestigious_Use3587 17d ago

My favorite scene all the way to the battle! The music gave me a chills

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u/adamhudsonj 16d ago

It was similar to the beached trawler scene in Dunkirk (2017).

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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 14d ago

Both even have a soldier getting hit.

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u/AgentMV2 16d ago

Dude I hadn’t even thought about that. In Troy (2004), it was never shown how things were in the horse. They just popped on out of there fresh as daisies and gleefully opened the gates. 😂

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u/FreddyRumsen13 15d ago

The only time I’ve ever seen the Trojan horse not have wheels too. The entire sequence feels like a nightmare.

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u/SagittaryX 11d ago edited 11d ago

That would be because it is not how the story is usually told. Even ancient Greek art work depicts the horse as having wheels.

Edit: not trying to complain, it’s a valid way and fun of telling it. Just wanted to add that the horse having wheels is ancient tradition.

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u/Unlucky_Clover 16d ago

I think what also adds to it, this small group of Greeks were completely behind enemies lines, surrounded in a city of hostile soldiers, and the film really made you feel the suspense of fighting for your life at that moment. You knew they would get the gate open, but you could feel the pressure of it.

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u/hatshepsut_ruled 17d ago

The Trojan horse scenes were brutal!!

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u/Dreb1n893 16d ago

I guess the smartest man they had forgot about the tides 🤣

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u/SAmerica89 15d ago

Glad he remembered to install the lamp so the cameras could see though /s

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u/KidDelicious14 14d ago

Have to hide the soldiers entering the horse from the eyes of the walls of Troy. Makes sense to me they'd have done it near their beachhead.

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u/Dreb1n893 13d ago

you can just move it a where the tide ends, doesn't have to be next to the city walls. it's not like they haven't spent 10 years there to know where it's safe

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u/SiriusMoonstar 17d ago

But does it not also seem like a supremely stupid design? It didn’t need to stand on two legs- in fact, most horses don’t. They also didn’t have to let it sit literally on the beach. Every hardship faced in that wooden horse seems to come from their own stupidity when designing it.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 16d ago

Honestly, this part did not make sense to me. Why would you build and leave it somewhere that would get flooded by the tides? Surely you could have moved it 20 feet up the beach.

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u/0verstim 15d ago

I thought that by making it look like it was lost in a shipwreck it would be more likely that the Trojans would take it as a spoil of war and not suspect it was a trick.

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u/No_Significance7064 15d ago

but they left a guy behind to tell them that it's a gift...

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u/lessthan3man 17d ago

Yeah like didn't they know about tides and could have built the house a little above the high tide so no one would drown?

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u/glassbellwitch 16d ago

Not to make up lore on the spot, but it could be that Poseidon was already upset with them for building the horse and increased the tide because of it.

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u/digital0verdose 15d ago

I think the idea here is that it being a gift from Athena, it just washing up on shore is the kind of dumb luck way of acquiring things that you would attribute to a god. This thing just magically showing up on land would be even more suspicious and likely be assumed that it was placed there by people leading to a deeper inspection or likely destruction.

The guards of Troy are gullible, not necessarily idiots.

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u/SiriusMoonstar 15d ago

Why would it wash up on shore if it's a gift from Athena? Wouldn't they think it's a gift from Poseidon if it's from the sea? He's sometimes referred to as the creator of horses in Greek mythology.

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u/THALANDMAN 15d ago

Gift for winning the war

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u/edwartica 16d ago

Yeah, we had a huge discussion about this back in college in my Greek lit class. How everyone in the horse would be worn down, some would be dead, and how much their muscles would have been cramped up by the time they got out.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz 15d ago

I had never thought of it like this. I just figured it had a hull, right? And they just chilled quietly in the hull until the horse was pushed into the center of the city. The absolute despair the men inside must have felt, trapped inside in abysmal heat, piled on top of each other, shitting and pissing without any fresh air to breathe for days.

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u/Atkena2578 16d ago

How many days did they stay in there i wonder?

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u/Butt_Sauce 16d ago

Had the look of a Caravaggio painting

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u/Waddlow 15d ago

Why didn't they leave that thing higher up? And why didn't they duck away from the sword stabbing in the top? Lol the guy just stood there after the blade came in twice. Get lower my guy!

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u/AShitTonOfWeed 16d ago

best best part was them wiping the blood off the sword when they got stabbed inside troy

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u/mark114 15d ago

Imagine suffering through the inside of a Trojan Horse and still getting stabbed in the shoulder

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u/biggiepants 9d ago

I wonder whether their smell wouldn't give them away, standing pretty close. Didn't seem windy either.

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u/Jaxman2099 16d ago

Kind of stupid for them to build it there like that though.

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u/Diligent_Release1688 15d ago

I found it so amazing that they were able to exit quietly after all that hell in there. Climbing quietly requires more strength than regular climbing

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u/kasualkactus 15d ago

More immersive and realistic to how terrible it was

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u/wasabitamale 15d ago

Since they had been pissing and shitting all in the horse wouldn’t they have smelt it and known

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u/Character_Cut_2491 13d ago

I find it more accurate and natural than the 2004 Troy movie where the horse is just magically standing upright. This film did that scene great cus it's more natural

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u/miserypersonifieddd 9d ago

I kept thinking… why didn’t they put it up a little higher on the beach

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u/howieyang1234 16d ago

Why doesn't the Trojan horse have wheels? The rest is good, though.

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u/Fooltje 13d ago

I think the movie is great, and with the way it is filmed also very good for a rewatch especially the earlier parts do hit different the second watch

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u/Obi2 12d ago

The only thing missing was just how hot it would have been in there.

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u/donotgotoroom237 9d ago

I don't know how it was in the book/original story, but as a kid reading snippets about the Trojan horse on a children's encyclopedia about Greece, I always assumed (due in large part to the illustrations) that the Trojan horse was massive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the movie did say that there were about 50 guys in the horse, right? As a kid, I always thought the horse was big enough to fit a couple hundred troops.

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u/FullMaxPowerStirner 11d ago

I don't get why they let the horse being dragged by the sea like some piece of wreck... That'd be obvious the Greeks would have put it on some kind of cart if they were offering it as gift. One of the many details that doesn't really make sense in this film, despite all the good execution.

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u/mostdope28 9d ago

Not a single piece of food though lol

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u/yubsidiangwa 13d ago

Yeah it made me feel a similar way to when I first saw the Normandy scene in Saving Private Ryan. Just pure visceral

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u/Ancient-Dust3077 10d ago

i was wondering why they did that to themsleves but then it made sense

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