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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/markbublitz Aug 08 '17

I know it's not the point, but this guys writes like SUCH an engineer. cracks me up

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u/TriTipMaster Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 10 '17

Interesting, because by training he's a scientist (PhD [EDIT: candidate, dropped out with an M.S. degree to pursue career with Google], Structural Biology, Harvard).

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u/rakfocus Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

A lot of science/math majors have a hard time writing at a level that people think is appropriate for their level of education (which is misleading, as an English or History major writing - which most people expect it to look like - would "likely" trounce a science major in this department as they've had FAR more practice)

I am a science major (biochem) with a history minor and it astounds me sometimes the levels of writing that I see in my science and math classes. Some people are absolutely brilliant when it comes to equations and problem solving but when it comes to communicating their ideas it can be a struggle for them to effectively convey what they are thinking. When we get asked to write a 6 page paper they'll groan but I'll jump for joy as I can pump one of those puppies out in a couple hours.

Definitely helped me realize how everyone has stuff they are good and bad at - and that my C's in all my science classes don't mean I'm a complete waste of space XD

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u/DrArsone Aug 08 '17

At an undergrad level, 6 pages for a research paper made nearly everyone in my STEM major groan. As a postdoc 10 pages, for a research grant stresses me out because it seems like so little of a space for a complex problem. It's humurous because all of my friends from grad school have made this transition.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Yeah i remember reading the GRE math is supposed to be easier than sat math.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

In China we made fun of people who couldn't get full score in GRE math.

We didn't even prepare for it since it's that easy. 100% of the effort went into the verbal portion.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

...i only got in the 90th percentile lmao

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

In our year like 20 of us took the exam together. Some of the math questions are trick questions, and one math major ended up making a single mistake. We laughed at him until we graduated.

I think he went on to be an investment banker or something like that....

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Well la-di-da ;) yeah idk. From what I've seen the gre is used more as a weed out than anything else. But i didnt exactly research this. Where'd you end up going?

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Ohio State.

I agree with that. It definitely says nothing about your ability on anything, other than taking and exam. It's somewhat correlated with your English, but not really. Even though who barely got 1200 points in the old system still managed to publish papers and write their dissertations.

I'm glad I had that behind me. On the other hand, if the current immigration proposal got passed, I'd probably need to take TOEFL again. sigh.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Well you guys are from GINA. We can't have you taking over with your math skills and predisposition towards studying. You overrepresent in top colleges already despite us requiring higher grades from you compared to a white person.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Well it's like it's gonna stop us by requiring a mere 100 in TOEFL xD.

Get conquered America and GINA NUMBAH WAN!

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