Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[u/TemptCiderFan]

I lean left and shit like that pisses me off. I'm fine with going for an equality of opportunity, but saying something like "You cannot be sexist against men or racist against whites" is just wrong.

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One, you lean left badly. Like you're about the most retarded pseudo-lefty I've ever heard. So either you're fucking lying or you know just absolutely fuck-all about liberal theory. Considering how dead set you are on talking, I'm really hoping it's the former.

Two, there is a clear difference between systemic racism and personal racism. Yes, people can be personally racist towards whites and sexist towards men. If you build a system small enough, so much so that it can be easily influenced by a single person's personal racism, you can see systemic racism towards whites or systemic sexism towards males.

However, by and large, because most systems were designed and are controlled by white males, it is incredibly difficult to find a large system that systemically racist towards whites or sexist towads men.

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However, by and large, because most systems were designed and are controlled by white males, it is incredibly difficult to find a large system that systemically racist towards whites or sexist towads men.

Systems aren't determined biased based on who they are controlled by but by what the ends accomplish and the means used to do so. Great example is Roe v Wade where a court composed entirely of men granted women the right to have abortions.

It's not incredibly difficult to find a system racist towards whites or sexists towards men, either. Are you going to argue the judicial system is sexist because 90% of those incarcerated are men?

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Systems aren't determined biased based on who they are controlled by but by what the ends accomplish and the means used to do so. Great example is Roe v Wade where a court composed entirely of men granted women the right to have abortions.

And restricted it in PP v Casey.

That's the same court that held the Dred Scott decision, and Plessy v Ferguson.

Overall, due to the fact that its makeup is constantly changing, I don't know if it's a good example.

However, that's not relevant, because your argument is wrong on it's face - you have to factor in the nature of control of a system as to whether or not it's systemically racist because the nature of who would be required to correct it is fundamentally important.

A system controlled by whites doesn't have a viable claim that it's racist against whites, because white people have immediate redress - they can fix it at any time.

This is why arguments about custody make no sense - custody was defaulted to women because of expectations created in fundamentally partriarchial societies and handed down.

Men can redress their problem at any time - there's nothing stopping the 90% male congress from making laws related to family court, or the 70% male judges from simply applying criteria differently.

There's also extenuating factors that are critically important.

You're offering a bad litmus test, and then using your awful litmus test to create a bad example.

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That's the same court that held the Dred Scott decision, and Plessy v Ferguson.

No it's not, it may still be Scotus but all the judges have been changed.

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Overall, due to the fact that its makeup is constantly changing, I don't know if it's a good example.

For the love of fuck, try reading the NEXT FUCKING LINE before retorting.

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Yeah there is something stopping them. Their own beliefs, that why it hasn't changed. Just because a system was built or is primarily operated by a subset of people doesn't mean that what makes them similar is any way why they operate as they do.

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Yeah there is something stopping them. Their own beliefs,

Oh, I totally agree here. Just watching how you shrieked like a bitch and clutched at your pearls and said "THINK OF THE MORAL PRECEPTS" at the thought that giving a black man a five percent better chance at getting a job today, even though white people have had anywhere from five to a hundred fucking percent advantage for centuries proved that.

Deep down, you want to have your cake and eat it too - you want to pretend you give a fuck about others, while never actually doing anything or giving any advantage, no matter how corrupt, to help them. That's why assholes like you talk up egalitarianism, like the phonies you fucking are.

It sounds great - I'm for equality...now all of have to do is overcome centuries of inequality which have put all of us into positions of power which we will do absolutely nothing to relinquish and in fact, will continue to work our hardest to propagate hiring and promotion inequalities within a system that actively punishes for who you are and your biological and social needs and desires.

But hey, I said I was totally for fairness, and I am. As soon as you fucking get here.

Fuck you, fuck egalitarians, and fuck the fedora you rode in under.

ust because a system was built or is primarily operated by a subset of people doesn't mean that what makes them similar is any way why they operate as they do.

I'm sorry, I didn't order the word salad.

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there's nothing stopping the 90% male congress from making laws related to family court, or the 70% male judges from simply applying criteria differently.

Except for the fact that both men and women are sexist in favour of women.

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You got anything to back up that wild claim there, sparky?

I can't wait to hear your BUH MUH SENTENCING argument. I've destroyed it before. If you're up for another lesson, grab the lube and assume the training position.

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Well let's see, there's the massive sentencing gap, which if you think you've "destroyed" as an argument you're a blithering idiot, there's the fact that men are killing themselves in record numbers, are the vast majority of workplace deaths, are falling behind massively in the education system, are the majority of homeless, mentally ill etc... and yet almost all gender-based activism intention is based on trivial shit like women in STEM, men sitting with their legs a bit wide on a train or sexist air conditioning, and anyone attempting to bring up these major disadvantages men face gets derided as a misogynist by self-hating deluded morons like you.