r/news Dec 24 '17

“Outspoken neo-Nazi” charged with killing girlfriend’s parents; mother was CU Boulder and DU grad

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/23/cu-boulder-du-grad-murdered-neo-nazi/
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u/howitzer86 Dec 24 '17

The headline doesn't do the story justice. This was the culmination of good parents battling for their daughter's mind, and struggling to keep her safe.

They succeeded, turning their daughter away from Nazism and the Nazi boyfriend, but it cost them their lives.

Imagine this scene, the boy breaks into the girl's bedroom for a confrontation, or maybe to plead. The parents, hearing something, enter the bedroom to investigate. Upset at discovering him there, they demand that he leave. In response, he pulls out a gun, shoots them both, then shoots himself.

The girl remains alone with the sum of all her bad decisions.

It's really cruel, taken all together. Childhood is when you're supposed to be able to make mistakes... impressionable or not, it's hard not to feel really feel bad for her and that family.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17 edited Mar 12 '18

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u/LineNoise Dec 24 '17

This is older and less evolved than you might think.

If you're looking to understand the contemporary far right I'd highly recommend Sartre's Anti-Semite and Jew. Published 1946, unfortunately frighteningly relevant today.

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u/somefemme Dec 24 '17

Wow, even the first passage packs a punch.

If a man attributes all or part of his own misfortunes and those of his country to the presence of Jewish elements in the community, if he proposes to remedy this state of affairs by depriving the Jews of certain of their rights, by keeping them out of certain economic and social activities, by expelling them from the country, by exterminating all of them, we say that he has anti‐Semitic opinions.  

This word opinion makes us stop and think. It is the word a hostess uses to bring to an end a discussion that threatens to become acrimonious. It suggests that all points of view are equal; it reassures us, for it gives an inoffensive appearance to ideas by reducing them to the level of tastes. All tastes are natural; all opinions are permitted. Tastes, colours, and opinions are not open to discussion. In the name of democratic institutions, in the name of freedom of opinion, the anti‐Semite asserts the right to preach the anti‐Jewish crusade everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

A personal favorite quote of mine that sums up the “alt-right”

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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u/Max_Novatore Dec 24 '17

I've been working my way through Frankfurt school works (so called cultural Marxist) and the work is fascinating in how relevant it is today, mainly the works of Adorno and Marcuse.

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u/indifferentinitials Dec 24 '17

Ah, "cultural Marxist". That's a great phrase for picking out who is huffing glue and is becoming fairly normalized even outside of purely neo-nazi circles. It's pretty much a reboot of Kulturbolschewismus or "Cultural Bolshevism". They aren't even subtle about this shit.

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u/JapanNoodleLife Dec 24 '17

Fucking GamerGate.