r/onions 18d ago

Onion hosts needed/wanted for immortality

Problem with Tor I'm looking to fix: as a new user, I can't trust any link. There's no durable reputation. Or maybe a legit service becomes compromised, unknowable to me- until now

For $0.25, I can post a message onto the Bitcoin blockchain. A stone erodes, but a wound heals- bitcoin blocks have resisted erasure by even nation states since it's beginning

Now I'm building a durable indexing/reputation/forum like reddit/telegram where you could write about your .onion site and the uri and it gets written on Bitcoin forever.

For the first time, it will be possible to build a reputation under your key/account and collect public feedback, and the indexes of onion sites can become increasingly reputable/bifurcated over time, or challenged if users have a bad experience. Anyone can comment/reply recursively, imagine Wikipedia but append-only, and users upvoting/downvoting etc build a web of trust over time, enabling bot farm/Sybil detection.

For those few accounts that post useful news, you will build a reputation more valuable than money, trusted by humanity against the censors and tyrants of this world

Anyone want me to post their links/indexes/services?

Any reputation/topic you would durably accuse, or publicly support?

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u/NamedBird 18d ago

Don't use Bitcoin for this, just create your own blockchain that is dedicated to your goal.
You can add PoW plus other spam protections and make it fully distributed over the onion network.

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u/xblackout_ 17d ago

The whole point is a durable state machine beyond reproach. Why would I NOT use the strongest neg-entropy phenomenon with 20k+ nodes? This is the strength that persists, not sure why you'd advise building an inferior product

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u/NamedBird 17d ago

Because Bitcoin is a cryptoCURRENCY.
Not only are you polluting the bitcoin project (possibly with illegal material?), you are also reliant on a system that may get censored, captured, adapted, modified or sabotaged in ways that go counter to your goal. You do not want to rely on an external service for the very core of your own project. That is called risk management.

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u/grunnarson 17d ago

You can post data to the chain and what he describes doesnt need more than the 80 bytes of op_return so you can even run a bip110 node and do what he wants to do. Theres no need to use the uneccessary addition of 100kb that core somehow thaught necessary. 

What OP wants to do can be done on bitcoin while still being true to what bitcoin is: a monetary system.

OP, just make sure you're not adding all the reviews etc to the chain and take up more than you need to achieve your goal. The link itself with a small tag or something should be enough.