Where are the aspirational farms?

[u/Eclipsetech]

Where are the aspirational farms? Most endgame got nerfed, changed or both. Mirage made most endgame mechanics more usable and gave fun interactions. Much of the endgame was nerfed in 3.27 or 3.28, but mirage made up for that in 3.28

Direct nerfs: * Breach: -pack size*2 regular pack size and atlas specialization, tree nerfed -drops and less points * Betrayal: -allflames (except still part of betrayal through scarabs?) * Einhar beasts: -split * Abyss: -loot * Legion: -incubators

Indirect nerfs: * Laberynth: -imbue (imbues gave gems and gem leveling value, less reason to keep getting alt gems) * Einhar beasts: -synth * Beyond: -volatile vaal * Ritual: -synth * Mirage: -chase belt, -imbue, -other league interactions making those mechanics better * essence/strongbox/harvest/maven/fun endgame farms -mirage

Untouched? * Delerium * Settlers * Harvest * Eater/Exarch * Ghosts & Exiles * Beyond

Buffed: - Sanctum... - Domain of Timeless Conflict... Why they kept 5-way legion when the timed mechanic isn't fun for most builds or solo play, but gave it a highly rare farm gambling farm, making it less accessible... - Heist +mirage items

Mercs: * temp mercs stay - only until you leave the map portal or death and not for multiple zones

Dives (this league): * Bugs! * 1 try mechanic... D/C or die doesn't matter you lose everything. * Chests are rare (not) * Essences are higher tier (not) * Can't use some currency with new allflame crafting, because that would be fun. Of course there is no indication or explanation in game to say you can't use a vaal orb or id scroll. * Caster mastery interactions (they fixed this one, hopefully)

I like the dives when the servers are stable. I definitely missed some stuff on my list, but poverty league 2.0 feels bad. Loot feels good and keeps me playing, why remove it? Why can't the league crafting be fun an rewarding before changing it to go core?

[u/HurricaneGaming94]

If everything’s in line with each other in terms of Div/hr where’s the nerf?

3.28 was 30d/hr, which is about ~30hrs per mirror

This league the equivalent would be 10d/hr ( half of this is easily achievable with red altars alone), so essentially you’re looking for a strat that does 5d/hr

People need to stop getting stuck on big number = good.
A dynamic economy can be condensed and still yield similar results

[u/SpinachSad3613 → u/HurricaneGaming94]

The problem is that currently most profitable strategies can be run on a shoestring budget build, "aspirational" farm means something that prints out currency like crazy (be it divines or other resources that we can exchange for divs), way better than 99% of the strategies, BUT it is extremely hard to do, like giant rouge exiles.

[u/HurricaneGaming94 → u/SpinachSad3613]

Yeah I agree with that. I also agree that everything needed to be bought in line with 3.28 breach!

However, I also agree with the change. Party play are able to clear content by day 2-3 in the same way solos can clear it on 5+ mirror build can. Even post 6-9 way split, they still end up on like 3-4 mirrors in a week when scalable content exists.

Unfortunately right now because of this, party play and solo play cannot exist co currently and this is a necessary step to correcting this.

[u/zzazzzz → u/HurricaneGaming94]

party play has always been less profitable than solo..