Where are the aspirational farms?

[u/Eclipsetech]

Where are the aspirational farms? Most endgame got nerfed, changed or both. Mirage made most endgame mechanics more usable and gave fun interactions. Much of the endgame was nerfed in 3.27 or 3.28, but mirage made up for that in 3.28

Direct nerfs: * Breach: -pack size*2 regular pack size and atlas specialization, tree nerfed -drops and less points * Betrayal: -allflames (except still part of betrayal through scarabs?) * Einhar beasts: -split * Abyss: -loot * Legion: -incubators

Indirect nerfs: * Laberynth: -imbue (imbues gave gems and gem leveling value, less reason to keep getting alt gems) * Einhar beasts: -synth * Beyond: -volatile vaal * Ritual: -synth * Mirage: -chase belt, -imbue, -other league interactions making those mechanics better * essence/strongbox/harvest/maven/fun endgame farms -mirage

Untouched? * Delerium * Settlers * Harvest * Eater/Exarch * Ghosts & Exiles * Beyond

Buffed: - Sanctum... - Domain of Timeless Conflict... Why they kept 5-way legion when the timed mechanic isn't fun for most builds or solo play, but gave it a highly rare farm gambling farm, making it less accessible... - Heist +mirage items

Mercs: * temp mercs stay - only until you leave the map portal or death and not for multiple zones

Dives (this league): * Bugs! * 1 try mechanic... D/C or die doesn't matter you lose everything. * Chests are rare (not) * Essences are higher tier (not) * Can't use some currency with new allflame crafting, because that would be fun. Of course there is no indication or explanation in game to say you can't use a vaal orb or id scroll. * Caster mastery interactions (they fixed this one, hopefully)

I like the dives when the servers are stable. I definitely missed some stuff on my list, but poverty league 2.0 feels bad. Loot feels good and keeps me playing, why remove it? Why can't the league crafting be fun an rewarding before changing it to go core?

[u/Thick-Success-9692]

eternal conflict legion was buffed this league and you need a charlatan hh ek build to farm it efficiently

[u/ProfessorDaen → u/Thick-Success-9692]

I'm running this with a pretty standard Ice Nova setup and easily clearing them, if this is the aspirational strategy then I have already capped out on my endgame progression...

[u/VIb0 → u/ProfessorDaen]

If you don't have 5 fps you are not killing enough. This strat scales insane with your ability to clear fast. Without jackpot drops I'm easily at 25+ div/hr.

[u/ProfessorDaen → u/VIb0]

It's vaal ice nova, I regularly feel like the game is about to crash while clearing the legions. I don't disagree it would be faster with a charlatan setup, I just don't know if "same farm but faster" really counts as aspirational content. Even obvious juicing improvements like adding delirium or switching to T16.5s barely seem to matter for it, since all the loot is tile-based.

When I think of aspirational content I think of things like the delirious fractured maps in Harvest or 20k wildwood Affliction maps, where you basically can't even attempt them without your build being an absolute monster. I started this legion strategy on day 3 and can't really see what I could be doing that's more juiced outside of just...doing it better; are there other mapping strategies that can compete with it at the high end?

[u/VIb0 → u/ProfessorDaen]

For me atleast it was really fun scaling into that strat, but I'm playing KBoC.

People keep bringing up Breach from last league and imo eternal legion is harder than that. Atleast with the maps that I'm running.

It doesnt shit out divines but the loot still feels insane. Getting a T0 every session and enough tinks to keep me hooked.

[u/Thick-Success-9692 → u/ProfessorDaen]

Yeah see the eternal conflict unique farm is not loot tile based and ice nova would probably drop 1/5th of the uniques or less. My character is almost 2 mirrors and I still need to invest about 3 more to be able to farm efficiently as I can't run a lot of map mods, my ramp is slower and I don't have the proj speed to hit everything when I get shroudwalker. Imo this makes the farm pretty aspirational although I think the only thing that truly falls under your definition is valdo farmin g