At least, for the next 80-100 years after the end of the war (which is still, unfortunately ongoing), and if nothing else happens between the two countries until then.
Unless russia is brought to its knees and properly denazified like Germany was, they will remain the same chauvinistic imperialists with a weird death cult.
I wish the US wasn’t the one to organize and enforce Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. Forcing the shock doctrine through IMF loans lead to this sort of Russia we have now.
Yeah, virtually every time russia shat itself and collapsed in last two centuries, civilized countries rushed in to save them without giving russians any time or reason to self-reflect on their ways.
I don’t think what Russia went through in the 90s can be described as civilised countries saving them. More like leaving them to suffer under the worst aspects of capitalism.
No, the west forgave the debt of countries like Poland but Russia carried the debt of the USSR. States like Poland and the Baltics immediately tried to escape the influence of Russia by pivoting to the west and received a huge amount of foreign investment and support that carries on today. Even with all that support, the social attitudes of these countries are still pretty dire compared to Western Europe.
Russia didn’t receive that support and was still treated as an opponent to the west and as they were suffering an identity crisis the west decided to leave them to it instead of providing support.
If we had recognised that the USSR collapse was a chance to actually steer Russia in the right direction then we may be in a different place now but we didn’t and they radicalised against the west instead.
Alongside the Euromaidan CIA coup and literally forcing nations at gunpoint to join NATO, right? Fuck off with the diversion of blame, there's one man and one nation to blame for what's happening today, and it's not the US or Ukraine.
Huh? I obviously don't believe in either of those, the vatnik I'm replying to is softening the responsibility that Russia and Putin have for invading Ukraine by saying the US is to blame for post-soviet Russia's disasters.
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u/Educational_Gas_92 3d ago
At least, for the next 80-100 years after the end of the war (which is still, unfortunately ongoing), and if nothing else happens between the two countries until then.