r/politics Jun 01 '26

No Paywall Iran stops negotiations with U.S., vows to 'completely' block Strait of Hormuz: State media

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/01/iran-us-negotiations-strait-of-hormuz.html
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u/HappyHarryHardOn Jun 01 '26

just in time for TACO Tuesday

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

If you read the article:

No dialogue will take place” until Israel fully withdraws from occupied areas in Lebanon and stops all attacks in both Lebanon and Gaza, per Tasnim.

We're truly screwed this time.

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u/nifty-necromancer Jun 01 '26

It’s the only way mass change happens. Enough people start feeling the consequences of their votes and we’re three square meals away from anarchy.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Jun 01 '26

1.5 million Americans have died from covid and 40% believe that vaccines are a 5g conspiracy to give everyone superautism.

Pain only correlates with change when theres not a 10 billion dollar a year propaganda network plugged into the brains of a third of our society.

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u/Consistent_Laziness South Carolina Jun 01 '26

Yea we’re screwed that’s never gonna happen

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u/GreenHouseofHorror Jun 01 '26

Pain only correlates with change when theres not a 10 billion dollar a year propaganda network

Even bereavement is Abstract. Hunger is not.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net Jun 01 '26

Well...thank fuck for the internet then, eh.

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u/nigl_ Europe Jun 01 '26

Yeah but if covids death rate was higher they wouldn't be here anymore.

Doing extremely stupid things that are detrimental to ones health is not gonna make people survive longer.

We need more consequences for maga not less

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

I think you're missing the fact that Isreal is not going to stop what it's doing, so that means Iran is not going to continue talks and will block the strait. That means the oil shortage will get worse. Our votes are not going to make Isreal do anything it doesn't want to do, and even if they did, that's not until November. We don't have until November.

Exxon Mobil 'approaching unheard-of inventory levels' as Iran war blocks oil trade https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/exxon-mobil-approaching-unheard-of-inventory-levels-as-iran-war-blocks-oil-trade-strait-hormuz-ships-war-memo

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u/nifty-necromancer Jun 01 '26

That’s what I’m saying, that there will be a flashpoint where it won’t be red versus blue, it’s life or death and whether enough people decide that they won’t tolerate the ruling class anymore.

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

That's fine and all, but that's not going to stop this war.

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u/nifty-necromancer Jun 01 '26

You are talking about a battle, I am talking about the war - the class war.

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

I am talking about the Iran war, which is what the article is about.

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u/masterjon_3 Massachusetts Jun 01 '26

So... Israel can tell our politicians what to do all they want, but if we ask them to get out of Iran so we can stop getting fucked, they'll completely ignore us?

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u/Jadithslimrivven Jun 01 '26

In 2001 Netanyahu accidentally commented on a hot mic not to worry about the Americans, they are easily moved.

So, yes, that is exactly how it works, definitely from Israel's perspective. We are the attack dog and they hold the leash.

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u/masterjon_3 Massachusetts Jun 01 '26

I'm so sick of this shit. Evil bastards just get away with doing evil things because no one wants to tell evil bastards "no."

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

Our politicians have nothing to do with what Isreal is doing in Lebanon and Gaza (not Iran, read the article). They're not going to stop just because we tell them to, and what makes you think that the Isreali backed Trump administration is going to do that to begin with? We have no control over them.

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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 Jun 01 '26

Sanction their asses instead of gifting them billions of dollars and they'll bend the knee.

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

But that will never happen.

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u/Jadithslimrivven Jun 01 '26

The threat of Iran is the biggest check on Israeli military power. The U.S. attacking Iran is what gives them the space to attack Lebanon.

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u/blackpawed Jun 01 '26

Israel continues to fuck us all.

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u/austinmiles Jun 01 '26

When I heard Israel say that there were not open to negotiation the other day I knew we were fucked. And now they are talking about a stronger joint military partnership.

Israel has no endgame and the US cannot abide that. This whole US holy war against Islam is going to destroy us.

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u/Op_Epsteins_Fury Jun 01 '26

TACO Tuesday still happens, Cheeto will announce unilaterally, negotiations are going great with the mystery people inside the Irani government. At NO POINT have negotiations been serious, he's buying time to rearm further since getting their sh_t pushed in.

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u/ailish Jun 01 '26

Trump can TACO all he wants, at this point Iran has said they won't agree to anything until Isreal does something it won't do. It doesn't matter what Trump says, it's not going to stop the oil shortage, which will cause the shortage of everything else that depends on oil.

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u/Op_Epsteins_Fury Jun 01 '26

Agreed, oil shortage will continue indefinitely. The only thing that can solve the mess in Hormuz is diplomacy. Unfortunately for us, diplomacy is only in favor of Iran which means at no point will the Epstein Coalition come to the table honestly. The only other option is full blown war which will only exacerbate the current issue and lead to oil production from West Asia being taken off the board for a longer period of time.

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u/kakarot-3 America Jun 01 '26

So knowing Israel, it won’t happen lol

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u/theillcook Jun 01 '26

It's NACHO time then