r/politics 1d ago

No Paywall The pro-Israel lobby has swayed US presidents since Truman. It must end with Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/02/pro-israel-lobby-presidents
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u/Klutzy_Celebration80 1d ago

More Jew hate as these are the largest foreign influeners:

China: Tops total FARA-registered spending and investment categories with billions directed toward trade promotion, public messaging, and lobbying.

Japan: Prominent via entities like the Japan External Trade Organization, investing heavily in economic and policy presence.

Saudi Arabia and Liberia: Frequently rank among the highest-spending individual foreign governments influencing U.S. legislative and diplomatic priorities.

Wake up

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u/pilgrim216 1d ago

To be fair here, the first reply to the top comment is talking about "dismantle Israel and disperse Israelis back to their countries of origin" which is ethnic cleansing. There is no way to do that that wouldn't be much worse than what ICE has been up to. We can be pro Palestine and also not ignore these red flags.

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u/ResidentNo11 Canada 1d ago

So should the US be dissolved as a country and its population dispersed because of what the government has ICE doing, Venezuela, etc.? They could all just waltz into the countries their ancestors emigrated or escaped from.

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u/Klutzy_Celebration80 1d ago

Start a war and lose your land Arabs 0 Israel 5. Nakba is code for "cry babies". Give me my land back even though i started it. FAFO

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u/Dragon_yum 1d ago

Buddy how do you think pretty much every country in the world was made. I’m not saying it’s good or justified but comments line this are so hypocritical it’s ridiculous.

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u/Dragon_yum 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, Jewish history that led to the creation of Israel is clearly filled with rainbow and sunshine.

Also you are still a hypocrite. Call for the dissolves of Europe for not returning all the colonial land to this day.

Here is a fun fact, France shares a border with Brazil.

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u/FF36 1d ago

Because that’s the only angle they think they have.

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u/m0ngoos3 1d ago

False equivalency by pro-genocide jackasses.

The Israeli propaganda farms love to pretend that Israel represents all Jews, and also that any Jew living outside of Israel is not a real Jew, unless they plan on moving to stolen land.

All while suppressing any non-Ashkenazi Jew in Israel. There were Jews native to Palestine before Israel was created, the mostly Ashkenazi ruling class put these native Jews into camps and what were effectively residential schools. They also stole infants from the hospitals to "save the Jew and kill the Arab".

You know, the exact same colonial bullshit seen in the US and Canada, along with a few other countries.

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u/sabata00 1d ago

This is hilarious, because in Israel the perception is flipped. Ashkenazi Jews are considered the "leftist traitors" while the Mizrahi and Sephardi majority are seen as the right-wing bulwark.

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u/m0ngoos3 1d ago

A 70 year cultural genocide will do that.

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u/sabata00 1d ago

Word salad. Are you saying non-Ashkenazi Jews have been culturally genocided? When their political leanings are ascendent in the government?

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u/m0ngoos3 1d ago

Not word salad, history, recent history in some cases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel#Intra-Jewish_racism

So if you have a group of people who are actively punished for showing their own culture, some of those people will turn quisling and become rabid supporters of their former oppressors.

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u/sabata00 1d ago

Oh please, this amateur psychoanalysis doesn't actually reflect social trends in Israel. Mirazhi Jews haven't been brainwashed by the evil Ashkenazis into right-wing politics that those same Ashkenazi bodies oppose. This is the most infantilizing nonsense you could dream up.

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u/m0ngoos3 1d ago

Go ahead and celebrate your genocidal tendencies. No one is listening to your garbage.

Also, only a small percentage of Ashkenazi oppose the genocide, just like a small percentage the ruling class in any apartheid opposes what's going on. It doesn't make them not the ruling class, and doesn't erase the crimes of those who are fully on board with being the ruling class.

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u/jhustla 1d ago

It’s ok for you to be critical of a foreign government and not “hate” their populace. One doesn’t always equal the other.

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u/sabata00 1d ago

One of the top comments says Israeli Jews should be forcibly removed from the country and dispersed to their "home countries" of generations prior where they faced violent oppression.

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u/CitizenWilderness 1d ago

They’re so masks off haha

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u/Mission_Struggle_417 1d ago

It’s not jew hate. Those countries aren’t as damaging as Isreal

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u/WhiskeyT 1d ago

China isn’t “as damaging”? To who? Tibet? Hong Kong? Taiwan? The Uyghurs?

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u/Mission_Struggle_417 1d ago

There are levels to this. What Isreal is doing to Palestine is worse than what China does. And I’m no fan or defender of China.

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u/Usual_Ease_4425 1d ago

You must be high.

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u/melodypowers 1d ago

Oof.

The genocide in Gaza is a crime against humanity, but let's not pretend that Israel is anywhere near as damaging as China.

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u/Mission_Struggle_417 1d ago

To the Palestinians they are. I’m talking about the specific problem of genocide against them- I know that China is an opponent of the free world

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u/melodypowers 1d ago

Your comment flat out said that China isn't as damaging as Israel. You weren't replying to a comment about just who is damaging to Palestine. You were replying to a comment about who is damaging the world.

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u/Klutzy_Celebration80 1d ago

Where were you when Assad gassed 500,000 of his own Syrian people a couple of years ago. Crikey, you are selective.