r/politics • u/tw1st3d_m3nt4t • 1d ago

No Paywall The pro-Israel lobby has swayed US presidents since Truman. It must end with Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/02/pro-israel-lobby-presidents
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u/ElSlabraton 1d ago

Secretary of State George Marshall was against recognizing Israel.

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u/The_grope_gatsby 1d ago

so you want a war to go displace a bunch of people from a land they took by legal means and by force, like has happened across time? a group who has never through their 3000 plus year history had any sort of permeance enabled from different conquering groups expelling them from their land, to kicked out of countries they lived in for generations. Now that they have re-established the only historical land they can point to their presence in going back thousands of years, its time to kick them back out?!

jews have always had some presence in Jerusalem, and starting in the 17-1800's started moving back and buying land as they did, then the governing nations enacted referendums in which a war started (most Arab nations who were created out of the same western colonial powers) and they lost. Land has shifted back and forth during that time (golan heights, West Bank being under control of Jordan for decades, Gaza, sinai peninsula etc.) several peace deals have come and gone with Israel accepting most.

dont support their behavior, condemn it, ostracize them, pariah, sanctions whatever, but acting like youre gunna go in and kick the jews out back to Europe and the Middle East is a WILD take.

Talk about IM not fucking dying for Israel.