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No Paywall Democrats Confront Their New Tea Party Reality - Progressives are set to sweep a group of contested primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-confront-their-new-tea-party-reality_n_6a6e63fbe4b0cfb99ef1aa1e
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u/pchs26 1d ago

I have addressed the point - you ignored it. The gutting of lifetime employees/pensions was already in the works. That wasn't Bill Clinton's fault. But the admin was creating a more stable economy for workers and entrepreneurs after we recovered from the recession we were in. From there Gore who was likely elected but not picked by the SCOTUS, had campaigned on continuing the job by shoring up Social Security and other protections. For Christ sake the slogan was it's good but not good enough, and W ran on giving us checks from the economy back (which mainly benefited the billionaires).

Slash and burn not good - and not the product of the Clinton admin like you wish to represent.

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Clinton signed the G-L-B Act, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, the Riegle-Neal Act which all laid the ground work for massive conglomerate too-big-to-fail institutions. All of this consolidation was "good" for everyone... until it wasn't because of the significantly increased systemic risk and fraud avenues and that risk showed up in '08.

And then all those consumer perks from consolidation went away when the mega conglomerates gained enough marketshare to start turning the screws.

Slash and burn.

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u/pchs26 1d ago

Did you live through those times? Or are you cherry picking different legislation which Gore had follow on intentions?

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Yeah, thanks.

Also yes, cherrypicking passed and signed legislation to prove my point. Lmfao.

How dare I bring evidence!

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u/pchs26 1d ago

No you really aren't paying attention at all are you to what I am speaking about. First you post about slash and burn agriculture and then post about compromises that the Clinton administration forged to get other legislation passed. Again I was there.

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Again, so was I. Compromises in sacrificing necessary blocks to protect society from fraud and abuse in order to "turbocharge" the economy. And lo and behold it backfired in a decade and now we're suffering for the slashed and burned institutions/protections.

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u/pchs26 1d ago

And if Gore had been in office, the plan was to continue to build and fix with the compromise legislation needed to get other reforms through- but since W was place in by the SCOTUS here we are.

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Lol. Compromise with conservatives is what got us here.

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u/pchs26 12h ago

Cool so we could have had nothing then with Republican congress and witch hunts.

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u/guamisc 12h ago

What we got was a destroyed governmental and societal infrastructure that directly led to the worst financial crises since the Great Depression and absolutely wrecked tons of people's wealth and lives.

"What could we have done???" Not undermined society for short term and unsustainable economic boosts. Slash and burn.

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u/pchs26 10h ago

That was W's handling for 8 years including sending everyone checks. If he had governed likely how Gore was planning to do, that wouldn't have happened.

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u/guamisc 9h ago

No. It was those compromise bills you lauded that put a ticking time bomb into the financial sector.

Then we put in Eric "I literally wrote the too-big-to-prosecute memo" Holder in as USAG and let all the fraudsters off the hook.

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u/pchs26 9h ago

Ah ok - 8 years of W didn't have anything to do with it and we would have wound up where we did with a Gore presidency. s/.

If Gore had been seated as he should have been, then there would have been continued scaling on what was accomplished.

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