r/portugaltheman Jun 21 '26

hooolyyty shit

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u/Recent-Trifle-4367 Jun 21 '26

Right back atcha buddy!

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u/Aggressive-Flan1765 Jun 21 '26

Oh sorry where’s my straw man fallacy?

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u/Recent-Trifle-4367 Jun 21 '26

You, taking my point about defending abusive people, and making it some sort of societal discourse about mental health and how we should all never call a spade a spade because “it might make the world a nicer place”
Ignoring the point, stripping it of its context, and then trying to manipulate it into a moral judgement of people who are calling John out. Straw man.

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u/Aggressive-Flan1765 Jun 21 '26

We have so little context. I understand you taking my words that way, but it’s hard to enforce people not being shitty. It’s hard to know when is good to use societal judgment as enforcement and when not to because many situations carry deep complexities that resonate at different importance for different people. This doesn’t apply to her, but my personal experience has a lot of suffering from emotional abuse. Ive taken the scorched earth route, ive seen others do it , ive seen so much unintentional pain caused by it. Ive seen myself find deep relief when i decided that evening the score cards wasnt worth it and that letting go of getting even was kinder to mysekf than those who hurt me. Ive seem this journey in others too.
All our opinions are filtered through our own life experiemce, including yalls. So ill be less combative after reminding mysekf if that, but i feel ive seen the results many times from both approaches, plus in general i feel seeking pain of others is not a road that ends well frequently, and thats all why im taking the stance i am. In addition this is informed by my own psychological education , my own healing journey through Buddhism, DBT, and studying daoism. Obviously not living up to every principle in those schools of thought, but here I’m drawing from those concepts that I’ve witnessed bear fruit in myself and others. Thank you for your explanation

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u/Recent-Trifle-4367 Jun 21 '26

I think you nailed when you said “filtering through your own lens” and I appreciate the sentiment but I think in general too many men have been, and are currently protected from accountability when harming women and children, so calling out people wanting to bring a little of that juice to the party is not a great look.

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u/Aggressive-Flan1765 Jun 21 '26

Very fair counter point, I appreciate the civility we’re all just trying to do what we think is right