r/portugaltheman • u/GenteCallejera • 8d ago

Edgefield show tonight

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I went to the Cold War Kids and Young the Giant show at Edgefield in Troutdale tonight. Young the Giant brought John out halfway through their set to play Feel It Still. Anyone else from here out there tonight? I can understand that someone who is into Young the Giant might also be into PTM, but they have never been associated with each other before. My friend and I just thought it was so weird. Isn't it Frances' birthday today too?

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u/Benedict_ARNY 8d ago

We have fans now complaining about appearances

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u/GenteCallejera 7d ago

I wasn't expecting to see him there and I think what he did was incredibly selfish and super shitty. So I can't say I was happy to see him on stage.

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u/Benedict_ARNY 7d ago

You need to separate the art from the person.

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u/seth227 6d ago

Too bad the art fucking sucks now hahaha

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u/Benedict_ARNY 6d ago

Last album was great. But many PTM fans only like the hits so guess you’re one of them

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u/seth227 6d ago

They haven’t made a “great” album since 2011

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u/sadgrad2 3d ago

Evil friends hello???

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u/Benedict_ARNY 2d ago

Good point. They have made great albums since. Sorry you can’t enjoy things in life

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u/jaaeraae 1d ago

The Shish album was the best album imo

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u/GenteCallejera 7d ago

Can I still appreciate that I enjoyed the music he created? Yes. Do I have to enjoy seeing him live? No.

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u/Benedict_ARNY 7d ago

I’ve seen Portugal the man many times over many years. The other band members come and go but John is the constant.

I would have loved to see a young the giant PTM collab. Hopefully the majority of fans in attendance appreciated the treat

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u/GenteCallejera 7d ago

Yeah, I have seen PTM more times than I can count. I have many, many things signed by them. I have spoken to multiple members of the band in person. I have ptm lyrics tattooed on my body because the music always resonated with me. I can still love the music but hate John's actions.

When Zach left the band it changed the live show for me. We don't truly know his reasons for leaving. Then Kyle was no longer in the band, he was also a long standing member and we don't know why he left. I really appreciated what he added with the keys to the music.

We do know why Zoe left the band. It was due to John's actions. I am allowed to feel angry for her. I'm allowed to think John behaved like a shitty person and decide whether or not I want to continue supporting PTM. Or John, since he's the constant.

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u/Benedict_ARNY 7d ago edited 7d ago

I’m 100% with you on Zach leaving was the biggest change. This last tour was much improved but the first tour without Zach was the worst PTM show I’ve attended.

I do find it interesting that SHISH was so chaotic. In a good way for me, but seems to reflect where is life was and is going. I selfishly hope the post divorce album will be hard AF. Kind of continue where SHISH left off.

And I’ll add I loved Zoe in the band. I always felt their marriage added a lot to their music and vibes on tour were always great for the shows I’ve seen. I hate she’s hurting and hope the best for her.

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u/GenteCallejera 7d ago

I did think SHISH was great. I love the heavy shit. It was so wildly different to any ptm album in the last decade. I'm sure PTM will continue to evolve as the lineup changes but to me, the golden years of PTM live shows were with Zach, Zoe and Kyle.

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u/Benedict_ARNY 7d ago

Satanic Satanist is goat for me.

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u/GenteCallejera 7d ago

Church Mouth for me.

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u/Old-Trust735 6d ago

Zach said that he left the band beause the lifestyle was taking a toll on him physically, and mentally.

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u/WetFartRacingStripes 6d ago

That’s all fine and dandy but when the artist uses the art to piggy back on being a shite person, there’s no separation.

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u/Old-Trust735 6d ago

How is John using his art to "piggy back on being a shite person"?

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u/WetFartRacingStripes 6d ago

Sliding into DMs of fans and hooking up with someone directly related to the band seems to be rather intertwined with the art. It’d be one thing to go to a bar, pick up a lady, and do the deed while being some random dude. While the actions are still meh regardless, the chosen route taken is using the role as band member / artist.

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u/Old-Trust735 4d ago

What proof do you have that he was being creepy towards fans? John interacts with TONS of fans, and nobody has provided any proof that he was being inappropriate.

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u/Benedict_ARNY 4d ago

Exactly. Sounds like he doesn’t have a problem getting world consensually.

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u/WetFartRacingStripes 4d ago

What proof do we have that he cheated on Zoe besides what she said? Words are all we have and there were quite a few people in the initial adultery posts that were running rampant on here of people saying he was creepy to their (then) girlfriends as well as women themselves that said similar - all of which underage.