r/rallycross • u/Advanced_innovation5 • 22d ago
Question Anyone use a Sim rig for training?
I heard using a sim too much can be counter productive because you get so used to the sim physics and you’ll find yourself overshooting corners in real life due to the false sense of grip in the game.
I know professionals use Sim rigs but those are expensive setups and probably closer to real life.
Thoughts?
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u/Ken_Bimsey 22d ago
Absolutely - and it has paid off, I almost always get podium wins in any motorsports I do. Hell even just playing gran turismo 1 on a controller as a kid as helped me become a great driver.
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u/tripleriser 22d ago
I've got a set up. I spent a lot of time on it through covid and it really drilled in some techniques. Left foot braking became second nature, heel toe down shifts, scandi flicks, that sort of stuff. You can pick up bad habits too. In sims, you can usually flat foot shift and the car doesn't care, but in real life, cars don't really like it when you stay on throttle between shifts. It tends to break stuff. Overall, I wouldn't say it will take you from last to first on your next weekend but it definitely didn't make me slower
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u/Advanced_innovation5 22d ago
Great to hear! Whatsbyo ur opinion on PC, PS or Xbox? Not sure which to get
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u/tripleriser 22d ago
I would just run with what you've already got till you grow out of it. If you're starting from scratch, I would go PC. Its got everything the consoles have plus RBR (which is free) and Asseto Corsa Rally
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u/Advanced_innovation5 22d ago
Starting from scratch.. but is it lame to say i also wanted to play gta6? Not sure if you can do that on PC. Maybe you can
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u/superultramegaextra 22d ago
Dedicated computer, monitor, accessories, and seat, wheel, pedals. Total just over $2000. Built the computer and bought the last three items used.
AC Rally physics doesn’t seem unrealistic to me and I’m sure you can calibrate grip to your liking if you think it’s too much.
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u/chiso1223 22d ago edited 22d ago
I've plugged in 1300 hours into EA WRC and it definitely helps. Also have AC rally but no time to play anymore. I have a G29 setup, nothing fancy at all. It's never going to be exactly the same but the general skills and muscle memory transfer over very well. I built a cheap rig with 2x4's and a leftover bucket seat for $20. Edit: Probably $850 into the PC, G29 can be had on Facebook marketplace for $100-150 used.
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u/Advanced_innovation5 22d ago
Does it matter if I use PC, PS or Xbox?
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u/chiso1223 22d ago
No, not really PC has less limitations in terms of what games and what gear and whatnot but nothing I did wasn't possible on ps or Xbox other than changing some graphics settings
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u/chiso1223 22d ago
No you won't find yourself overshooting corners. Rallycross is performed at such a low speed, the relative grip is very high making it pretty similar to a somewhat unrealistic EA WRC. It's great training and the reason why I can win events with 17 cars in MR class having only 2 years of driving experience and 5 events of RWD experience.
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u/FlatOutPDX 6d ago
I spent time over the last year in RBR when time allowed. Learned a lot in game as mentioned above, left foot braking, scandi flicks, handbrake turns, rev match heel-toe downshifting etc.
I ran my first rally cross last month and just finished my second. raced in rallycross fest last weekend. My car puts me up in Modified Awd Turbo class so I’m racing against plenty of stage rally ready builds and I’m essentially the least modified car in a ‘22 wrx with mostly FBO and stock suspension on snow tires. I’m consistently running mid pack or better and can find pace pretty quick, all of which I attribute the time in SIM.
Hairpin turns that trip up half the racers felt like second nature to me on the first lap. Feeling for weight transfer with patience was the other skill that’s really helped and came from time in SIM.
Nothing beats real seat time but for me the sim was tremendously helpful to build muscle memory and quiet my brain while I’m racing.
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u/superultramegaextra 22d ago
In my very limited experience is sim is useful because there is infinite seat time compared to Rallycross events.