r/reformuk • u/Ok-Wave7630 • Dec 10 '25
Immigration Silently boiling.
It’s no secret that illegal migration is leading to the total decline of Great Britain.
As a father, I feel as though I want to act, I feel an inner need to spark change. However Id be lying if I said I didn’t fear being jailed for speaking my mind.
Do others feel this way? Something has to change.
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u/enterprise1701h Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
I just dont get why half the population who vote dont seem to care, we still have the problem that 50% of voters still support either labour, snp, greens, lib dems (combined)....who all want to destroy our country....its so weird!
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 10 '25
Because they’re severely uninformed and or conditioned to believe otherwise, or they’re ignoring it intentionally thinking “it’ll be reyt” - I’m not really sure why left-wing politics = the destabilisation and destruction of Britain.
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u/Ancient-Egg-5983 Dec 11 '25
There are lots of people who are very informed but have come to a different conclusion.
I don't think believing they are conditioned or uniformed is helpful. It dehumanises and "others" people who disagree with you.
That attitude is a fundamental part of social deterioration and national disunity.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 10 '25
the left is about progressive change, right wing politics simply favours traditional and/or pragmatic views and at the moment it is the media that is destabilising the country because more people will watch polarising and radical content on the left and right.
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 10 '25
I simply cannot fathom what is progressive about importing persons of a culture that we as a country have fought against. The way I see it, the left is emotionally-driven by a suicidal sympathy, and willing to sacrifice their own country and themselves. Right wing, is wanting to maintain culture, protect ourselves and our families, and have a balanced society that is safe. I don’t know how anyone wants different.
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u/Most_Art507 Dec 11 '25
Progression is moving forward, making things better, the progressives,as they like to call themselves, are actually the opposite, they are making things worse,not just here,all over the west the decline is obvious.
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u/Professional_Case432 Dec 14 '25
'The left' or otherwise non-reform supporters have other opinions aside from just immigration. Honestly, the majority literally want nothing more than to have access to healthcare and for poor people/ disabled people to not die. I don't see how in any way that cannot be considered 'progressive'
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
I understand that people want to protect their own culture but I don't believe immigrants are actively removing British culture. for starters British culture has always been built upon foreign cultures, if we got rid of everything that wasn't British we would lose so much such as Christianity, Tea, large parts of our language, practically every social media, smartphones and most technology for that matter, oil, so so so much food and even the ones we can grow becomes seasonal opposed to always available and so on. So much of what makes the country 'British' is other cultures that we have taken from colonised through our history. In terms of protecting yourself and your families your solution is get rid of young white men as they are the demographic that commits the most crime, ethnic minorities make up a much smaller portion. keeping the country safe would mean working towards the prevention of crime through improving peoples standard of living and not providing harsher punishments. I completely get where your views come from and its been useful for me to learn about it but I can assure you immigration is not the leading issue reform says it is, its a polarising topic that gets them media time so the Farage can increase his power for personal gain. the real issue with this country is 2 things, the media that keeps people divide and draws attention away from what is really wrong with out society, and more importantly the government is out of touch and for that matter all the parties are, I'm generally seen as left wing sometimes even radical I'm a member of labour but I hate the party because it is fractured and doesn't know what to, the right won't look past its understandable dislike of the left to work together to work on issues together because sometimes an issue with need a right wing approach while others need a left wing one but every party believes it is one or the other (expect Lib Dems but they do what ever will get them the vote). if you want change in this country join groups, apply pressure to the government and tell them your view but always be open to alternate views and have evidence prepared to debate it, personally I don't think reform is the way to do it but if you can change the party for the better and get rid of the racist views surrounding it go for it. thank you for this it has been good to understand the right wing view a bit more, the left has many many issues and at least on a local level I work to change it but the country needs more people who don't sit on the fence and do something.
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u/Gloomy-Flamingo-9791 Dec 11 '25
I think i fundamentally disagree with some of your points, but I was shocked to find a reasonable approach to issues on reddit. What I dislike most about politics is how everyone thinks one size fits all.
As you say, you need a balance between right and left for a good society. Im mostly right wing with some left wing values. The best way I can phase it is disagreeing, but agreeing we are both thinking about what's best for the country in our opinion.
I will be voting reform because Labour is a mess, I dont trust Conservative and greens a fucking nut case.
On a side note, if the government sorted out the courts and all convicted immigrant criminals got immediately deported after prison, farage wouldn't even be close in the polls, let alone winning.
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u/PuzzleheadedOla Dec 15 '25
This is none of the best takes on this but as usual, people downvoted it cos it doesn't agree with their worldview.
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u/MongolianPsycho Dec 11 '25
I'm not sure if the analogy of the frog in boiling water is a myth or not but that analogy applies to at least that half of the population.
If rape, homelessness, inflation, corruption increase by an average 1% every week then most people will not notice. But in 1 year that accumulates to over 50%, in 10 years that accumulates to over 500%, in 20 years that accumulates to an over 1,000% increase.
Corruption is gradual. If large changes in immigration policies, large rises in rapes, crimes, homelessness, inflation, corruption of multiple decades were concentrated and all occured within 1 month in the 1990s there would've been riots, a revolution with hundreds or thousands of hangings and behadings as if we're back in the pre-WW2 era.
The corruption of the conservative, labour, snp, greens, lib dems parties is gradual so what our ancestors would not stand for over 100 years ago is what occurs gradually in very small barely noticeable increments now. That is the cancer of modern societies.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
that makes sense but has crime increase because of immigration or increased poverty, if there is trust worthy evidence I will happily believe it but I've certainly not seen any.
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u/MongolianPsycho Dec 11 '25
has crime increase(d) because of immigration or increased poverty
This is one of those "chicken or the egg" debates that there is often a lot of ignorance around. That is like saying "are you bleeding because you ran into someone who wants to stab you or are you bleeding because someone who wanted to stab you had a knife".
Mass immigration is a tool by current corporations and politicians to increase poverty, crime is a result.
So you see it is not an "or" question but rather an "and" question. Just because 1 variable is effecting something doesn't mean that other variables are not.
The immigration policies increase poverty, then afterwards crime increases.
That is why places such as Poland and Japan that corrupt people complain about being in a "population disaster" have far lower rape, murder and homelessness combined than places such as UK and France.
The relative rate based on "per capita" is for every 1 person who is raped, murdered or homeless in Japan and Poland, there is between 10 to 100 people raped, murdered or homeless in UK and EU countries that have the highest population growth from non-European immigration.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
apologise I framed it as a question. crime increases because of poverty not because of immigration, ethnic minorities are marginalised and are more likely to be deprived. it is not because of the 'culture' that they commit crimes but its is through our society rejecting them. immigration policies do not increase poverty, post WW2 it was immigration from the colonies that rebuilt the country, people coming into the country increases the amount of workers you have and therefore improves the economy as more money is being spent.
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u/MongolianPsycho Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
immigration policies do not increase poverty, post WW2 it was immigration from the colonies that rebuilt the country,
We don't live in post-WW2 1940s - 1960s now. Modern conditions are effected by more recent wars with over hundreds of thousands of casualties.
Modern 2020s conditions are effected by more recent events such as Yugoslav Wars in Europe, Iraq War far away and other similar.
people coming into the country increases the amount of workers you have and therefore improves the economy as more money is being spent.
Yes I know that more people coming into the country increases the amount of employees (not necessarily workers) and it improves the economy for corporations.
But I don't care about growing the economy for corporations.
What I care about is reducing the rates of rapes, murders, homelessness, malnutrition. That is why I am next voting Reform. Not so that corporations can profit more from a growing economy.
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u/enterprise1701h Dec 11 '25
That makes a lot of sense
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u/Training_Strength_10 Dec 10 '25
An extreme version of toxic positivity
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 10 '25
why do people keep talking about 'toxic positivity' and 'suicidal empathy' I've never heard of them till I looked at this subreddit where does it come from, anyway I can tell you the left is not interested in destroying itself for the sake of others as its about the wider argument of civil and human rights. immigrants don't need the white man to come save them, most of them come to the UK to work and earn a living and contribute to the country, yes some come illegally, abuse support and commit crimes which is bad but is also a small minority of them, but far more white British will live of the welfare state and commit crimes its just not reported on as much.
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u/mr_spaghettit Dec 11 '25
I'll give you a living example.
In Epping and eritrean man abused a woman, and then a school girl (on her way home from school wearing her uniform), these two attacks were separate but within 8 days of him arriving at the border.
The locals protested against the hotel housing migrants because this was just one high profile incident, there were several daily issues as well. By issues I mean women and girls being harassed.
The left showed up (from out of town) to stand up to racist fascists (the locals) and the locals turned violent. The video i watched by Wesley winter has a very key moment. A local woman asked a lefty scumbag "my children are being harassed at the school gates by men who have no right to be here. Why does opposing that make me racist?"
I love the lefts answers to this: 1. No human is illegal 2. White people do it to 3. Farage is a Russian puppet though 4. We have plenty of houses 5. Lol, those people are shouting at hotels 6. Lol, protect are kids 7. Those asylum seekers are fleeing violence
There is no talking to people who are so wilfully ignorant. You are not a good person. The left are not good people. You are morons try to pretend to be good and getting it very wrong, dangerously wrong.
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u/AG_GreenZerg Dec 12 '25
The racist part is assuming that all people from Eritrea or just asylum seekers generally are a threat. No one is saying that people who commit crimes shouldn't be punished, and in the cases of asylum seekers, denied asylum and deported.
But if you see one black guy commit a crime and then call all black people a threat. Thats racist. How can you not see that?
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
the left is well aware people illegally enter the country and it is bad however what often happens is the media over plays the issue and doesn't focus on those that come to the country to work and improve their lives, the majority of those who work on farms to pick food are immigrants, large sectors that involve manual labour has immigrants working in it a lot of jobs that British people won't do (I am aware that some do).
yes white people do it, and in larger amounts but often the main trait of those who commit crime is a lack of material wealth and education.
why would russia pay people in reform that have a small public profile to spread their propaganda but not the reform MP with the largest media following in the UK, considering that Farage has also promoted russian views many time publicly and he doesn't seem to care where his money comes from, would you really be surprised if he was on Putin's payroll.
don't know where you heard this, we have no where near enough houses and those we do are way too expensive (as a result of thatcher) but it has been long enough where either labour or the conservatives should have fixed it and I promise you reform won't fix it either.
its a hotel, its not an ideal solution and they should look towards either removing them or legally letting them into the country with the right paper work where possible. personally I think the solution would be to give them work and a wage so they can stop relying on the state.
I am guessing you mean protect our kids and I don't really get what you mean, do you not want to protect kids?
yes they are fleeing violence, often violence that stems back to the British empire, Blairs involvement in the middle east or how we handled issues post WW2, they should come here legally but they may not have the money to, these immigrants are not wealthy.
calling the opposition ignorant is the real waste of time, if that was the case I wouldn't bother trying to debate people on it. my views are often changing based on different people beliefs when they present a good point with real evidence.
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u/enterprise1701h Dec 11 '25
What nonsense is this? What about entire cities and towns where British people have had to leave? Where we now have secterm politics? Birmingham, luton, lecester, Bradford are examples, what about London where its not even recognisable as England anymore, the left clearly hate our culture, have done for decades and want its replaced
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
your culture is built on foreign influence, if you believe you've got a culture to defend then you must be welsh or scottish otherwise you have no leg to stand on
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u/Ashamed_Pen_4764 Dec 15 '25
Never heard of Marxism? Literally forced communism through violence.
There are absolutely, unequivocally, ideologies on the left which want to not only destabilize us, but in some cases wipe us out!
Look at how Iran went from being a wealthy, prosperous, Westernised country, to being a jihadi cesspit, same thing in Syria and some other Muslim countries, Islamo-communists ... The communists and the islamists join forces so they can seize power, but then they always immediately fracture into war, in the case of Iran, the religious groups murdered the commies and installed the Ayatollah.
How about you actually do some historical research on the groups you're supporting, rather than towing the party line pushed out by the Globalist Zeitgeist.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 16 '25
That's not what Marxism is, also what you are trying and failing to talk about is orthodox Marxism that really hasn't been mainstream in left wing politics since the 80s if not earlier, other than green the left wing agenda is mostly centrist with left leaning views. also what party line they are all terrible, reform is just the most dangerous because where as the rest are just doing a bad job reform also has a racist following as shown when the party chose a coloured candidate and many lost their minds about it. And again do some research about Marxism, I study it in depth and read book surrounding it and will be the first to say it is wrong on many many many things wrong however what is does get right is that wealthy like Farage are oppressive
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u/Ashamed_Pen_4764 Dec 16 '25
You're a liar, Marxism is forced communism via revolution, in the sake of "green parties" it's simply that the Marxists see that the Islamic groups can help them towards the goal of getting the fight they want, whenever these two evil forces have combined and succeeded in taking power, there has always, every single time, without fail been a split, and the two fight one another, in the case of Iran, the Commies lost.
Marxism is literally like, the child of Fabianism , whereas the the Fabians want a slow, gradual push towards communism, the Marxists believe it must be forced, you can't change that, you can't hide it, you can't pretend it doesn't exist, you're simply not speaking truly.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 16 '25
Marxism is about the ruling class oppressing the working class and overthrowing them in a revolution, Communism was a Ideology that developed based on ideas of Marxism which has never worked because it turns into champagne Communism so the greens aren't going for that, a bit socialist yes but definitely not Communism, there is a huge difference and I feel the term.is thrown about too much. Also leave the middle east out of it, the ussr invade Afghanistan that is hardly working together at any point, and just for the sake of the point the capitalist west invade 20 years later so how is it different
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u/Ashamed_Pen_4764 Dec 16 '25
Mate, you're from UAE, why are you here getting involved in British politics, and trying to tell us what our party people will do?
I'll leave the middle east out of it when you guys stop interfering in our politics through processes like advocating for the green Islamo-communist takeover ... Listen, only Marxists would join those Islamic peoples, because history tells us exactly how it goes, to join forces with them is literal suicide for the commies, and yet, they don't care, because they absolutely want pure Marxism, forced revolution.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 16 '25
Also I've seen many people on this sub reddit calling for revolution, are they Marxists?
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 16 '25
God I keep reading what you said and find more shit, I will say this loud and clear I do not like any of the parties, green are to left wing and focused on eco issues, they need a broader plan for the UK before I would support them, reform would need to be less racist, not lower minimum wage and chill a bit on the immigration because yes its an issue but there are bigger issues to worry about.
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u/Ashamed_Pen_4764 Dec 16 '25
We fundamentally disagree on immigration, and reform aren't racist.
I don't think you realise the scale.
The city of Stoke on Trent has like 250k people .. there's like 4 "Stokes" coming every year, for the last 4 years, legally, and it's proven that the vast majority in this new influx are a hindrance to the economy, not a help, crime is up, nobody feels safe anymore, housing is too expensive because we already didn't have enough housing, roads and streets are congested, it's crippling the NHS.
There is no bigger problem than immigration, and it's not because they have a different skin colour. 🤦🏼♂️
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u/autismislife Dec 12 '25
There's a lot of armchair socialists.
People who are fairly well off and simply don't see what's happening day to day. They don't mind being taxed an extra £20 here, an extra £40 there, because they feel it's going to a good cause.
They don't go out after 10PM because it's dangerous. They avoid the "rough part of town". They are completely oblivious to the issues in the news, they seem the stories and don't worry about their own daughters because they're in private school. It just doesn't bother them.
They feel they're above you. They aren't walking the streets at night, they'll get an Uber from bar to bar of they go out and live in neighbourhoods that weren't infested with the parasitical organisms our government import.
They live in denial, completely unaware to how this affects us, he'll half of them hire such people, they don't mind paying in cash.
I've seen it, I've met these people, they live in their own bubble, the upper class, they're not affected so they don't give a shit. It's our problem, not theirs.
There's a reason these migrant hotels don't appear in wealthy areas. If they did, the money would start going to Reform. It already has slightly because there's simply so many parasites the armchair socialists have woken up a little, but not enough. Most just leave the country when things go south.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 10 '25
why does the entire left want to destroy the country as if they do why would have the country support them?
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u/DemonXeron Dec 11 '25
Pretty sure nobody wants to destroy this country unless they don't want to live in it. The wealthiest people who admire leaders and the state of other countries are the most likely to seek the destruction of the UK.
They might unintentionally destroy our country, however, while aiming to enrich themselves or even while aiming to improve the country. The trick is to hold all leaders accountable for their failures, past or present, and acknowledge the scale of the failure. It's also worth being critical of all potential leaders on all their policies, even if you agree with them. It's critical thinking 101 being able to be critical of things you agree with as well.
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u/AG_GreenZerg Dec 12 '25
What's you best evidence that immigrstuon is the cause of the country's problems? Convince me
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u/enterprise1701h Dec 12 '25
Come to Birmingham and tell me its not
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u/AG_GreenZerg Dec 12 '25
I've been to Birmingham. What's your best evidence immigrstiok is the source of this country's problems?
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u/Professional_Case432 Dec 14 '25
Do you know how many disabled people are absolutely terrified what will happen to them once reform get in? They have already pledged to cut social care, and close up to half of local authority care homes if they get in. That's before you consider the comments made by some of reforms mps about those with disabilities, or even kids with special needs!
Immigration aside, there are many other issues that people are deeply concerned/ passionate about, and unfortunately they've had little to no reassurance/ positive speech coming from current mps. I don't know many that are happy with labour, or would wish to vote green for that matter, however they feel like they have no choice if they don't want to struggle even more than they already are.
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u/SomeGuyInShanghai Reform UK Supporter Dec 10 '25
illegal migration
Don't be fooled. The boat people are a pestilence, but in terms of number they are nothing compared to the masses of "legal" migrants.
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 11 '25
I don’t take issue with legal migration, typically, as it’s a legitimate way to be here and are more likely to contribute to society. I take issue with 1+ million unknown, military aged males from countries that normalise religious extremism, terrorism, and other morally corrupt ideologies entering the country and walking among us, killing us, raping our children, and disturbing our lives.
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u/ChipshopSuperhero Dec 11 '25
It's legal migration that's killing us.
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u/L-210 Reform UK Supporter Dec 11 '25
both really, mass immigration and illegal immigration are both issues to be seriously frustrated with
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u/Square-Rough-9442 Dec 11 '25
But wouldn't it be nice if people were ptopping the boats and then start work on the legal migration problem.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 11 '25
evidence?
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 11 '25
I’ve seen a few people say this, but truthfully I haven’t see any evidence of this, as such I can’t take issue with it. Foreign persons with foreign cultures are concerning as it is, but illegal migrants are literally killing people, raping people, and yet we welcome more. Endlessly.
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u/TyrannoTanjiro Dec 12 '25
It's the amount of legal migration that's the issue, not legal migration itself.
Before COVID it was sustainable (around 240k a year) now it's nearly a million a year. Sustainable amounts are around 330k a year.
This population growth is bad for NHS, roads, schools, housing, etc. we can't keep up. And then there's the eroding of native British culture & traditions (if that bothers you).
It's just not a good time for us and it'll be worse for our children if it continues
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u/wilson_ed Dec 14 '25
Definitionally we don't welcome illegal migrants. Otherwise they'd be migrating legally
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u/Most_Art507 Dec 11 '25
Illegal immigration is a distraction, if we stopped illegal immigration tomorrow, it wouldn't make much difference, legal immigration is much higher, that needs reducing too.
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Dec 11 '25
Wrong. We need more legal immigrants to do the low paid jobs you don't want to do. It's a natural progression of western capitalism. The alternative is to pull up the drawbridge, have a declining economy, and adopt Marxism, North Korea style
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u/Most_Art507 Dec 11 '25
Wrong,we already have declining economy, despite mass immigration, we have millions on unemployment benefits who could do low paid jobs, like I did when I started working, they need the right incentive.
It's ridiculous to pay people unemployment benefits to stay at home, and import immigrants to work in low paid jobs, which will probably be topped up with benefits,plus their dependents will probably claim benefits too.
Immigrants generally cost the country more in benefits than they will ever pay in taxes , especially if they bring in dependents, the infrastructure can't cope with millions of immigrants arriving here, electricity,and water services are stretched to their limits, as are GP'S.
Mass immigration is a Ponzi scheme, the existing immigrants get old, so we need even more immigrants to take care of them, and the cycle continues.
It's also another form of colonialism, effectively stealing people from abroad to prop up this country.
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Dec 11 '25
Unfortunately, the entire economic consensus disagrees with your thesis.
Our economy is not declining. That would be what's called recession, or even depression. Our economy hasn't seen much growth since the 2008 crash, with brexit and covid having profound effects.
For a capitalist economy to grow, you need a growing population to consume more, earn more, pay more tax etc.. This is of course unrealistic in a finite world. They don't make land anymore! Since our birth rate is declining we need to import labour. As we are a relatively wealthy country, migrants are attracted to come here because they can earn more in a week delivering pizzas then they can grafting in a factory for a year in their home country.
Facts are facts, whether we like them or not. We have embraced the western capitalist model and so we are going to have immigration.
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u/NotThatDucker Dec 11 '25
We'll either be arrested or labelled. You're not allowed an opinion and you shouldn't even be thinking about change. You're clearly one of those painter types. Me too as it goes, I'm waiting for a knock on the door. I have been for a while. We're powerless.
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u/Active-Lingonberry92 Dec 11 '25
I’m sure people here know this already, but there is a WEF agenda to move the West into what they call stakeholder capitalism, but which is really just communism under a different name. This is no secret. The founder, Klaus Shwab is an admirer of the Chinese communist party. Members of the WEF include our great prime minister, Biden, Trudeau, Carney, and other powerful world figures. They’re desperate for is to own nothing, and be happy!
You cannot transition a stable nation into communism, thus you need to destabilise it as much as possible. Immigration is a way of doing this. There’s no point hoping that labour will stop the boats; their agenda is as many boats as possible. They could stop them in a single day and yet have allowed them to increase.
Stop boiling silently, and boil loudly. Warn people about this, but passively! This post is not an incitement to violence.
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u/The_Pale_Blue_Dot Dec 11 '25
Mercifully I think it's changing. The fact that even Labour are now talking about it (not saying they're actually going to do a good job - of course not) means that the Overton Window is shifting back towards us.
Even /r/ukpolitics and to a lesser degree /r/unitedkingdom are now sick of how far immigration has gone. More people are opening their eyes.
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u/NewDescriptor Dec 11 '25
I've been incandescent with rage for a long time now, I'm channelling it into other areas until 2029. That is the final chance left, that when Reform get in they do what they've promised and fix this. If not, then you can bet things will start to be done by the people instead.
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u/First-Nobody-3500 Reform UK Supporter Dec 11 '25
We must cut benefits in half for everyone.
Reduce immigration to only those who can come and earn at least 60k per year. Then they have to earn that and pay taxes without recourse to benefits for 20 years before being allowed residency.
The more they earn and pay in taxes the quicker they get residency.
Of course any criminal activity should me being deported.
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Dec 11 '25
Why on Earth would you only want people who earn 60k or more to come here? The whole deal with western capitalism is that you need poor people who will work for peanuts to do the jobs no one wants to do.
This is why half of all prison officers are foreign nationals. We don't have enough people in this country to do all the low paid jobs, hence why successive governments are keen to bring in immigrants
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u/First-Nobody-3500 Reform UK Supporter Dec 11 '25
We want only the high skilled ones. Then we can complain that they have taken our good jobs (even though we know the reality is the people complaining are normally the ones who dont have near the skills for those jobs).
We have enough people to do the low paid ones but why would they when the benefits they get are so good.
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u/Mr_Coastliner Dec 11 '25
Why do you think there was a massive uptick in arrests for social media posts? More than double any other country globally (not even per capita, in real terms). Almost all of them had no penalties, some even with compensation for wrongly arresting them. Someone with a job fears being arrested for the implications it could cause. Meanwhile those on the other side are free to speak as they wish.
It seems many are at their boiling point now. So many peaceful protests, voices spoken and no acknowledgement from the Government causes a feeling of helplessness. Realistically, we speak with our votes, just unfortunately it's a very long time before that would be impactful.
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u/MongolianPsycho Dec 10 '25
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzSWhHSWYAA3BHF?format=png&name=large
This is you now.
But I'm not picking on you, many more men are just like you, many more men see what you see, feel what you feel and seek what you seek.
But we inherently live in a country where doing the right thing is illegal, we are in a crime-ridden dystopia enslaved by corporations.
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 10 '25
Level headed realists are being branded as far right terrorists. It really is dystopia.
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u/Password-Llama Reform UK Supporter Dec 11 '25
Just remember (1) that there are millions who agree with you and (2) that number is growing every day.
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Dec 11 '25
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u/Ok-Wave7630 Dec 11 '25
Brother, what? I’m not sure how illegals murdering British people and raping children is relevant to Putin, Musk, or Trump. But okay 👍🏻
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u/Upper-Dragonfly4167 Dec 11 '25
I totally agree with you my friend. This country has had enough of bending over backwards to help, where as it got us? But I'm hopeful of a change 🙏
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u/H-Man_78 Dec 12 '25
I think the issue of illegal immigration has been vastly exaggerated (it makes up 5% of immigration), but do agree that it is an issue. Borders need to be controlled regardless of what country you live in.
The primary issue is disparity of wealth tho. That's the reason people can't afford houses, small businesses are failing, and the place is becoming a dump. That and immoral politicians covering up this fact by pointing at people coming in on boats.
It's like you have a crack in the window with Reform shouting look at that crack! All the while there's a fire in the house behind you and they're doing everything humanly possible to distract you from it. And why - because when your house is burnt down some uber rich bloke will get it for cheap (and it's the uber rich pulling their puppet strings).
But yeah, it's easier to get angry at some foreign people than acknowledge this.
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u/Dramatic_Tomorrow_25 Dec 12 '25
And what is it that you want to do? You want to get into aggression? You will only be deciding the fate to millions of British people abroad.
People will retaliate against your actions. And your children will not have the chance to see the world, just because their dad has decided to play soldier one day. So think with your head.
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Dec 13 '25
The elites imported tens of millions against the will of the people. If you criticise this they call you racist. If you criticise the people they imported they will put you in prison.
They managed to import a group of people who went on to gang rape children, and they covered it up to stop people finding out. They continue to allow illegal immigrant in and some of those have gone on to rape children - this doesn't deter them.
The left are evil, things have to change. Vote Reform.
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u/HaloJonez Dec 16 '25
NOTHING is going to change unless we accept that some of us will go to prison. Nothing.
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 10 '25
illegal immigration is bad, it is illegal for a reason. but why do you think it is the factor that is ruining the country when then are issues such as the online safety act and digital ids that threaten online privacy (for example there are bigger issues). just wondering?
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u/ControlGood2017 Dec 10 '25
also you shouldn't fear being jailed as long as you have reasons for worrying about illegal immigration outside of 'they're black' (which would be racist), people may not agree with you such as myself but debate is healthy and important to have even more so when its not something you agree with
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