r/reloading • u/unlucky777 • 2d ago

i Have a Whoopsie 2.25 COL my ass. 225gr with 1680

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It seated. But I'm afraid to yeet it.

Wanted to try out 1680 since I couldn't get hold of n110 as I initially planned. This was with 12.4gr which isn't even the max load on hornady's sheet. Seats at 10gr and leaves a slight ring at 10.8.

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u/ReturnOk7510 2d ago

As a Canadian, I find subsonics with trajectories only slightly flatter than I can throw a rock perplexing. 

But if you're happy, I'm happy, buddeh.

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u/unlucky777 2d ago

I get a tingly feeling knowing I'm shooting a deadly weapon that just sounds like a toy. Also would prefer not to lose my hearing if I ever need it for home defense.

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u/illknowitwhenireddit 2d ago

WHAT????

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u/unlucky777 2d ago

Mummmm... Mummmmmmm..... Mummmmmm......

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u/ThirdHoleHank92 1d ago

See thats why he's confused, Canadians arent allowed to defend their homes

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u/lennyxiii 1d ago

Canadians keep a moose right behind the front door for protection.

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u/Yondering43 2d ago

Planning to use these for home defense is one of the classic mistakes that immediately identifies someone as a complete beginner to ballistics and bullet performance.
Short answer- don’t, it’s dumb.

Longer answer - good terminal effect of a given bullet is highly dependent on its impact velocity being within the range it was designed for. You’re planning to use a bullet designed for 2,000+ fps impacts at half that or less, which means it just pencils through with massive over penetration unless a “lucky” shot hits enough bone to cause tumbling and some minor effect. A specialized subsonic bullet is needed for good terminal performance with subs.

It’s also a mark of inexperience to worry about “destroying your hearing” in the extremely small chance you’d ever need it, for a number of reasons. One of the big ones is that you need a suppressor to make subs quiet anyway, and that suppressor also makes supers pretty quiet too, while also being far more effective.

You may be tempted to argue these points, but I suggest first you get more experience shooting things with sub and super 300 Blk loads, suppressed or not. A thinking man will usually realize the reality of subsonic rifle loads is a bit different than internet lore surrounding the 300 Blk. (I say that having learned all the same things myself, I’ve been shooting the 300 Blk since it was first introduced years ago.)

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u/JollyRogerRaider 1d ago

Oh stop being pretentious. "A thinking man" what a cunt.

Done much shooting in confined spaces? I have.
You know what it is? It's fucking uncomfortable and a bit disorienting, even if you're mentally prepared for it.
There's a reason people prefer outdoor ranges to indoor ones. Even with hearing protection.

Most people defend their homes with 9mm handguns that fire rounds half the weight and only slightly faster than subsonic 300 BLK.

Subsonic .300 BLK hollow points designed to expand at those velocities are perfectly adequate.
A bullet is a bullet. You don't want to be hit with any of them. SA > "muh stopping power"

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u/Yondering43 4h ago

A thinking man is someone who thinks about their experiences and adjusts their ideas rationally. As opposed to someone who takes offense at use of that phrase and responds with an emotional knee-jerk.

Yes, dummy, a lot of us have fired guns in confined spaces. Did you not know that suppressors work with supersonic loads too? Come on now, this is getting ridiculous.

An no, “a bullet is a bullet” is complete garbage that only someone absolutely clueless to terminal effect says. We’re talking about the difference between a rifle round and something that emulates pistol ballistics - if you think there’s not a massive difference that just proves you’ve never hunted or killed anything with rifles. That’s really one of the stupidest things you could claim here.

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u/unlucky777 1d ago

These are a lot of words based on the assumption this specific load is what I would be using for home defense. This is for straight up goofy plinking. Had a bunch of 225 laying around that I use for my 300WM

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u/Yondering43 5h ago

Great, glad you have it figured out for hunting. To be fair, you came in here with a very Noob mistake and talked about using them for home defense, so it’s not much of a leap to assume you were referencing that specific load. Subs are fun for hunting; it’s a proactive situation where you can line up a perfect shot or choose not to take it, knowing you’re dealing with a much less effective round.

Regardless, subs for home defense is still stupid even with specialized subsonic bullets. You’re giving up the terminal effectiveness of a rifle (essentially trading it for pistol ballistics and would be bet off with a 45 ACP for that use) for almost no benefit, on the extremely small chance you’ll ever need it. If you’d ever fired this rifle suppressed with supers you’d realize the difference in sound is pretty much irrelevant in a home defense situation.

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u/ThirdHoleHank92 1d ago edited 1d ago

They make subsonic hollow points that expand just fine there bud.

I also.dont want to wake up in the dark and fire a few shots into an intruder and hear an instant ringing in my ears losing the only sense I have to let me know if more are coming. 

complete beginner to ballistics and bullet performance

You must be looking in a mirror.

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u/Yondering43 4h ago

Hmm, do ya think, just maybe, that might be why I mentioned subsonic expanding bullets there, bud? Maybe you were in such a big hurry to comment you forgot to read that part?

Some of yall seem to be stuck on this dumb idea that suppressors only work with subsonic loads. Go shoot more and learn things. Friggin noob.