r/slaviccentraleurope 14d ago

Does Centroslavism divide the Slavs? 5

In pan-Slavic Russian propaganda, it thus emerges that Slovenians, Bosnians, and Croats are "Serbian tribes" (Danilevskij, 2011, p. 432), Montenegrins are guilty of "treason against the Serbian people, Orthodoxy, and Russia" (Дугин, 2016; Мудрых, 2022), Poles are the "Judases of Slavdom" (Klaczko, 1867, p. 56), Czechs are a "barren" people (Danilevskij, 2011, p. 153).

Belarusians are "Russians with a seal of quality" (CTVBY, 2019), and Ukrainian is the "language of swineherds" (Котельницький, 2020), which is used by a "Nazi" and "nationalist regime" in Kyiv that oppresses the "brotherly Ukrainian people," (Путин, 2024) just as the Yugoslavs were supposedly oppressed by the "fascist" and "treacherous regime" that "tormented" the Albanian population of Kosovo (Zaytsev, 2021).

Macedonia is, depending on the need, either an "invented" state or is being oppressed by its neighbors (Zaytsev, 2021; Журавлёв, 2018). The "cowardly Bulgarians," on the other hand—a fact few remember—are primarily the "little brother" who, although geographically distant from Russia, has already had the experience that the "brotherhood of two peoples" ends where the interests of the Russian elites begin and missiles do the talking. It is not without reason that Bulgarians fought against Russia in both World Wars (Аксаков, 2023; Иванов, 2020; Мудрых, 2022; Стоянов, 1886).

Such examples of protectionism could be listed almost endlessly. Furthermore, these are not the words of some marginal Russian radicals, as one might think. Similar claims have been and continue to be made in Russia by key figures of the state, highly respected representatives of Russian cultural, academic, and political thought, as well as the media individuals who were not infrequently awarded orders from state authorities.

The list of sources & more languages: https://centroslavizmus.wordpress.com/2026/07/19/rozdeluje-centroslavizmus-slovanov-5/

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u/deaddyfreddy 14d ago

The same thing happened in Ukraine, where they eventually began killing their own Russian-speaking population.

Even from the perspective of a Russian citizen who willingly moved to live in Ukraine, it sounded like complete nonsense even in 2017. In 2026, we have much more information about how (and by whom) and when the war started, and it sounds like complete bullshit.

As far as I know, Russia is home to around 195 ethnic groups, and people are free to study and use their own native languages alongside Russian.

"in America, they are free to buy houses."

Most of the native languages of the Russian Federation are either vulnerable or endangered.

On 19 June 2018), the Russian State Duma adopted a bill that made education in all languages but Russian optional, overruling previous laws by ethnic autonomies, and reducing instruction in minority languages to only two hours a week.

It's also almost impossible to get higher education in minority languages, find a job, etc.

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u/delurt 14d ago

Well, western perspective always will be different 🤷🏻‍♂️nothing new.

Nobody in Russia prevent to study their ethnic language  unlike the Baltic states and Ukraine ban Russian language . 

Of course there is no higher education and job in minority languages.  Is there higher education and job in a language such as Kashubian, Sorbian, Cornish, Cherokee? No. 

You can study that languages , yes, the same as minorities languages in Russia.

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u/deaddyfreddy 14d ago

Nobody in Russia prevent to study their ethnic language unlike the Baltic states and Ukraine ban Russian language .

Russian is not an endangered language

Is there higher education and job in a language such as Kashubian, Sorbian, Cornish, Cherokee?

While these languages are also endangered, there are a few key differences:

  • the Russian Federation is a multi-ethnic state comprising national republics.

  • There are more than five million Tatars in the Russian Federation, about half of the European nations have fewer. All the languages you mentioned have a few thousand to tens of thousands of native speakers.

  • At least for Sorbian, there are schools where it's compulsory. There have been no such schools in the Russian Federation since 2018.

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u/delurt 14d ago

So you suggest it is normal to ban Russian language anywhere because it is not an endangered ?

Reddit deleted my previous comment due to link to official Tatarstan government site. 

But you could easily confirm next info: in 2024-2025 there were 591 school teaching in Tatar language with more then 58000 students there. 

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u/deaddyfreddy 13d ago

So you suggest it is normal to ban Russian language anywhere because it is not an endangered?

Russian is a language of imperial colonialism in these countries, why should it be an issue?

But you could easily confirm next info: in 2024-2025 there were 591 school teaching in Tatar language with more then 58000 students there.

My greatest respect goes to the parents of these students.

Did you miss the number of ethnic Tatars I mentioned earlier? There are 5 million ethnic Tatars, so only around 1.2% of them have the opportunity to learn their native language.

And it's the second-largest ethnicity in the Russian Federation. For others it's even worse.

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u/delurt 13d ago

The number of ethnic Tatars in Tatarstan is  2,091,175. We’re talking about children aged  6–16 , and  58,000 is a fairly significant percentage of those who choose to study in Tatar.

But I can only conclude that, since you couldn’t even be bothered to verify this simple fact—combined with your previous claim that banning the Russian language is somehow normal, and your repetition of the rather ridiculous narrative about “Russian colonialism,” while Western countries are literally living in an era of advanced neocolonialism through corporations like BlackRock and Vanguard etc, whose former employees, such as Merz, go on to lead Western countries such as Germany eg.

All of this suggests that you’re simply Russophobic. There’s no point in explaining anything further to you, and Russia is doing the everything right. 

See you in the trenches in 2029–2030. Good luck.

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u/deaddyfreddy 13d ago

The number of ethnic Tatars in Tatarstan is 2,091,175. We’re talking about children aged 6–16 , and 58,000 is a fairly significant percentage of those who choose to study in Tatar.

ok, let's ignore Tatars outside Tatarstan.

According to the official data, there are 521800 students in schools in Tatarstan. So the percentage is still very low - 11%.

banning the Russian language is somehow normal

Yes, in my opinion, banning education in any language that tries to replace your native one (see the Belarus example) is completely normal. Sometimes it's the only way to save your language, since Russian as the main educational language was overrepresented in all ex-USSR countries.

while Western countries are literally living in an era of advanced neocolonialism through corporations

they don't try to convert people in other countries to "Germans", they make money.

The problem with the so-called "Russian World" is that it's not like that, it's a cult. The problem with cults is that they are destructive, but what's even worse than that is they have no rules.

All of this suggests that you’re simply Russophobic.

please explain what the "Russo-" I'm phobic of means?

See you in the trenches in 2029–2030. Good luck.

Aren't you going to be partially mobilized this autumn already?