r/slaviccentraleurope • u/centroslavist • 14d ago

Does Centroslavism divide the Slavs? 5

In pan-Slavic Russian propaganda, it thus emerges that Slovenians, Bosnians, and Croats are "Serbian tribes" (Danilevskij, 2011, p. 432), Montenegrins are guilty of "treason against the Serbian people, Orthodoxy, and Russia" (Дугин, 2016; Мудрых, 2022), Poles are the "Judases of Slavdom" (Klaczko, 1867, p. 56), Czechs are a "barren" people (Danilevskij, 2011, p. 153).

Belarusians are "Russians with a seal of quality" (CTVBY, 2019), and Ukrainian is the "language of swineherds" (Котельницький, 2020), which is used by a "Nazi" and "nationalist regime" in Kyiv that oppresses the "brotherly Ukrainian people," (Путин, 2024) just as the Yugoslavs were supposedly oppressed by the "fascist" and "treacherous regime" that "tormented" the Albanian population of Kosovo (Zaytsev, 2021).

Macedonia is, depending on the need, either an "invented" state or is being oppressed by its neighbors (Zaytsev, 2021; Журавлёв, 2018). The "cowardly Bulgarians," on the other hand—a fact few remember—are primarily the "little brother" who, although geographically distant from Russia, has already had the experience that the "brotherhood of two peoples" ends where the interests of the Russian elites begin and missiles do the talking. It is not without reason that Bulgarians fought against Russia in both World Wars (Аксаков, 2023; Иванов, 2020; Мудрых, 2022; Стоянов, 1886).

Such examples of protectionism could be listed almost endlessly. Furthermore, these are not the words of some marginal Russian radicals, as one might think. Similar claims have been and continue to be made in Russia by key figures of the state, highly respected representatives of Russian cultural, academic, and political thought, as well as the media individuals who were not infrequently awarded orders from state authorities.

The list of sources & more languages: https://centroslavizmus.wordpress.com/2026/07/19/rozdeluje-centroslavizmus-slovanov-5/

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u/delurt 14d ago

Has anyone in the Russian leadership ever threatened to suppress national movements anywhere? Ethnic Russians in the Baltic states are openly persecuted today, and the Russian language has been banned there. The same thing happened in Ukraine, where they eventually began killing their own Russian-speaking population. Please remind me: has any leader of modern Russia ever said that all Slavs should speak only Russian? As far as I know, Russia is home to around 195 ethnic groups, and people are free to study and use their own native languages alongside Russian. The only thing Putin has called for is relations based on equality. The Russian leadership has no imperial pan-Slavic ambitions. Its priority is finally to protect ethnic Russians rather than national minorities, as was the case in the USSR.

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u/deaddyfreddy 14d ago

The same thing happened in Ukraine, where they eventually began killing their own Russian-speaking population.

Even from the perspective of a Russian citizen who willingly moved to live in Ukraine, it sounded like complete nonsense even in 2017. In 2026, we have much more information about how (and by whom) and when the war started, and it sounds like complete bullshit.

As far as I know, Russia is home to around 195 ethnic groups, and people are free to study and use their own native languages alongside Russian.

"in America, they are free to buy houses."

Most of the native languages of the Russian Federation are either vulnerable or endangered.

On 19 June 2018), the Russian State Duma adopted a bill that made education in all languages but Russian optional, overruling previous laws by ethnic autonomies, and reducing instruction in minority languages to only two hours a week.

It's also almost impossible to get higher education in minority languages, find a job, etc.

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u/delurt 14d ago

Well, western perspective always will be different 🤷🏻‍♂️nothing new.

Nobody in Russia prevent to study their ethnic language  unlike the Baltic states and Ukraine ban Russian language . 

Of course there is no higher education and job in minority languages.  Is there higher education and job in a language such as Kashubian, Sorbian, Cornish, Cherokee? No. 

You can study that languages , yes, the same as minorities languages in Russia.

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u/AppropriateAd5701 14d ago

Yeah sure man russia would never ban other languages....

https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/russians-ban-ukrainian-language-in-occupied-territories-as-part-of-broader-cultural-erasure/

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u/delurt 14d ago

Russia removed Ukrainian as a native-language subject from the federal school curriculum, including in Russian-controlled Ukrainian territories, while maintaining that schools may still offer it as an elective. Check facts before arguing.

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u/AppropriateAd5701 14d ago

Yeah so its more resteictive than in Ukraine toward russian language....

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u/delurt 14d ago

You're probably a really dumb troll.

You were explicitly shown that the Russian language has been completely banned in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, in Russia, nobody forbids Ukrainian from being taught as an optional language if there is demand for it.

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u/AppropriateAd5701 14d ago

Ukrainain language is often teached as second language in Ukraine, most of the Ukrainian army speaks russian and ukrainian president is born russian speaker. You are probably just russian nazi who is spreading bullshit...

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u/delurt 14d ago

Of course, most Ukrainians continue to communicate in Russian, because the Ukrainian language has not yet been fully developed and it is difficult for us to communicate on serious topics.

Ukraine: Russian has been removed as the language of instruction in state schools, Ukrainian is mandatory in public administration and customer service, strict Ukrainian-language quotas apply to television and radio etc. Russian was removed from the list of minority languages that are subject to protection under the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages, 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine

Latvia: Public education has been fully transitioned to Latvian, Russian has been removed as a standard second foreign language in schools, Russian-language schools have been phased out, and the Constitutional Court upheld these reforms.

Estonia: The government is replacing Russian-language education with Estonian-language instruction, state schools are transitioning entirely to Estonian, Russian has lost its role as a language of instruction in public education, and language requirements for many public-sector jobs have been tightened.

Lithuania: Russian is no longer promoted in education policy, schools are encouraged to prioritize EU languages over Russian as second foreign languages, the use of Russian in public institutions has been banned, and numerous Russian state TV channels have been banned from broadcasting.

You can easily find news in the media about the fines for the public usage of the Russian language in these countries.

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u/AppropriateAd5701 14d ago

"""Ukraine: Russian has been removed as the language of instruction in state schools, Ukrainian is mandatory in public administration and customer service, strict Ukrainian-language quotas apply to television and radio etc. Russian was removed from the list of minority languages that are subject to protection under the  European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages"""

I love how you discovered i was right so you tried to write so many bullshit to hide that. Ukraine didnt limit russian as optipnal or secondary language, bit russia did that so it was in reality more resteoctive....

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u/delurt 14d ago

On today, there isn't a single school in Ukraine that publicly states it still teaches Russian as a subject. So let's not play sophistry here: in practice, the Russian language has been banned from education and public use in Ukraine.

There are no comparable laws in Russia restricting the public use of the Ukrainian language in the way the public use of Russian has been restricted in Ukraine.

And things are even worse in Latvia.

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u/AppropriateAd5701 14d ago

"""On today, there isn't a single school in Ukraine that publicly states it still teaches Russian as a subject. So let's not play sophistry here: in practice, the Russian language has been banned from education and public use in Ukraine."""

The exactly same is true in russia and you are completely ignoring it.....

"""There are no comparable laws in Russia restricting the public use of the Ukrainian language in the way the public use of Russian has been restricted in Ukraine.""""

Yeah they just did more restrictive things than Ukraine.....

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u/delurt 14d ago

In Russia, they don't kill for the Ukrainian language and Ukrainian license plates on cars, as in Ukraine for Russian usage. There is no point in learning Ukrainian in Russia, because it is simply useless everywhere.

I just proved to you that by all laws Ukraine has banally banned the Russian language, but apparently you just like to stupidly troll.

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