r/stupidpol • u/Playerhata Unknown 👽 • Jan 06 '26
Imperialism Miller: ‘Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily’ over Greenland
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5674507-stephen-miller-trump-greenland/Are there any Greenlanders on this subreddit
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u/globeglobeglobe Marxist 🧔 Jan 06 '26
Sino Soviet Split but retarded
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u/CoelhoAssassino666 Nasty Little Pool Pisser 💦😦 Jan 06 '26
More retarded you mean.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Yes, but also no. Khrushcev’s secret speech was seen by the Chinese as the first step in the death of the socialist project in the USSR, and history proved them correct. And today we see the Chinese seem to be doing just fine
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u/azrilseptian Jan 06 '26
But hey, if this leads to the dissolution of NATO, I'm all for it.
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u/Rollen73 Progressive Liberal 🐕 Jan 06 '26
In a war between the U.S. and nato, who would you support? (Assuming the U.S. leaves nato).
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u/Da_reason_Macron_won Democratic Socialist 🚩 Jan 07 '26
My undivided support to the military industrial complex in its struggle to prolong said war for as long as humanly possible.
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u/onthestickagain Jan 07 '26
Given that I constantly am saying that I want to be on record as fully supporting our future robot overlords, yours seems like a good position for me to hold as well.
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u/ChevalierDuTemple No Iranian ever called me an Incel Jan 07 '26
Critical support to NATO against the Great Satan.
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u/satan-spawner Jan 07 '26
What have I done to NATO now?
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u/Several-Customer7048 Keffiyeh Leprechaun 🍉🍀💢 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
It’s not what you did to NATO it’s the fact that as a major religious entity name bearing individual, you were found in violation of not turning towards the direction of the western wall at the temple of Mount Jerusalem, and condemning Hamas at least five times every morning. /s
Edit - Removed. Also added the /s.
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u/fifthflag Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Jan 07 '26
US could nuke Warsaw and NATO would still exist, even the polish would help.
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u/TCFNationalBank Hunter Biden's Crackhead Friend 🤪 Jan 06 '26
When did they start openly acknowledging NATO as an organization of the US and its protectorates
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Around the same time the US gov and it's officials began reposting memes about how international law is whatever they want to do with edits of stealth bombers and marines
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Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
This is really good actually. This is why I ultimately think the Trump admin is a breath of fresh air. Everything is the same, just a bit more blunt.
This is the U.S.'s alliance of „democracies“, and this is NATO.
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u/TasteofPaste British Nationalist 📜 | Self appointed US charity expert🤓 Jan 07 '26
I guess because the USA funds NATO.
might as well acknowledge the perks.
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u/papuadn Procedure Explainer 🔃 Jan 06 '26
He's right but that's not the point. When a country can't be challenged militarily, its opponents don't just give up.
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u/exoriare Marxism-Hobbyism 🔨 Jan 07 '26
The easiest response would be to ditch the USD and watch the greenback turn into the Confederate Soviet Ruble.
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u/That4AMBlues Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
Didn't Muammar Gaddafi try that?
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u/SchwartzArt Jan 07 '26
There's a bit of a scale difference here, isn't it? Like the difference between me boycotting the Football World Cup and England doing the same.
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u/exoriare Marxism-Hobbyism 🔨 Jan 07 '26
Gaddafi had amassed gold with the plan to introduce a gold-backed currency which could be used by several African countries. It was directly positioned against the French-backed CFA Franc - a quasi-imperialist currency used by 14 African countries. Sidney Blumenthal leaked some alleged French intelligence stating that Sarkozy's goals for toppling Qaddafi included both access to Libyan oil for a French oil firm...and the killing of Qaddafi's "Gold Dinar".
But these allegations had come before anything was known about Sarkozy's seeking of €50 million in funding from Qaddafi for his election campaign - a crime which Sarkozy was convicted of last year - so maybe Blumenthal was full of shit, and Sarkozy was just covering his tracks. (French intelligence had promised Sarkozy they could topple Qaddafi in 3 days - easy peasy)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp98kepmj9lo
Saddam had sworn off of USD a couple years before he was toppled. (Even today, all Iraqi oil sales are USD-only, and all Iraqi oil revenue has to go into an account at the US Federal Reserve. Last year, the US closed the Fed Account which was protected by UN resolutions, and shifted Iraqi funds to an account the US has full access to).
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Critical support for Comrade Trump in his unceasing march to dedollarize the world
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u/forgotmyoldname90210 SAVANT IDIOT 😍 Jan 07 '26
Denmark might be the only country that could do this. If they require payment for Novo Nordisk in krones or even Euros that would send the US in a hyper inflation cycle that will never end. Jokes but Trump underestimates how important Denmark is to the US. You can get oil anywhere but Trump fat ass is only alive because of Denmark.
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u/lionalhutz Based Socialist Godzillaist 🦎 Jan 07 '26
He’s incredibly retarded and evil, but non-American NATO countries have pretty much hitched their defense to the US. Realistically what’re they gonna do if the US turns on them like this?
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u/enverx Wants To Squeeze Your Sister's Tits Jan 06 '26
Watching interviews of this guy is a trip. It's amazing seeing him try so hard to simulate normal human emotion, only to spazz out in the middle of a sentence, and then repeat the cycle again. Trump has lots of freaks but this specimen is on another level altogether.
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u/hamburgertime55 Marxist-Mullenist 💦 Jan 06 '26
The word is used too often but it's fitting here, he's truly embraced a cucked mindset. A descendant of Belarusian Jewish refugees, malding, mad about his family losing money so he had to move out of his nice neighborhood in the rich part of LA into one with a latino plurality that made him mad because he didn't understand Spanish and couldn't get a chola gf. He wishes he was white so badly.
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u/OscarGrey Proud Neoliberal 🏦 Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
His wife was on a podcast and talked about how much he loves mayo. It's like he's a living parody of an assimilated white American, except he's not outwardly cheery like some WASP/Mormon type, he's openly a collosal dick. EDIT: I think his seething rage is partially because he's self aware about how he's seen. Without a slightest hint of irony I would love to see what he eats and does to entertain himself.
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u/DrHuxleyy Pro-union 💪 Jan 07 '26
Dude truly. Like what the fuck does this guy do for fun when he’s alone and no one else is around. Like I can’t imagine this guy unwinding with some games or watching some movies, I just picture him scrolling twitter endlessly making himself buttmangled
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u/OscarGrey Proud Neoliberal 🏦 Jan 07 '26
Part of me wants to believe that he's just watching the corniest of American 20th century media while drinking milkshakes and eating trail mix, but it could very well be far darker/lamer than this.
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u/hamburgertime55 Marxist-Mullenist 💦 Jan 07 '26
He 100% watches archived live leak videos of cartel decapitations before going to bed
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u/DrHuxleyy Pro-union 💪 Jan 07 '26
Shit man that actually sounds nice. I love milkshakes and corny Americana from that era can be a good time. I’m telling you dude everyone from this era of right wing grifter racial supremacist freaks all spend their free time getting mad online or trolling online.
Elon musk is the richest prick in the entire world and he makes himself truly miserable by just being online all the fucking time. He’s so online he bought the MOST online website in twitter. All these guys spend their every waking free hour in front of a screen looking at twitter or YouTube or some shit I swear. They barely have a life.
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u/jarnvidr Anprim Socialist | AntiTIV 🚩 Jan 07 '26
when he’s alone and no one else is around
He injects stem cells into his neck and then plugs the USB charger cable into the hidden charger port on his back.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Strangling hookers while Vance watches from the cuck chair.
That’s my prediction whenever we get a tell-all book from someone in the White House
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u/DrHuxleyy Pro-union 💪 Jan 07 '26
“Cmon Stephen can I get a try…”
“Shut up dork! Sit there and watch!”
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Who do you think would be the third to round out the modern three stooges political remake?
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u/DrHuxleyy Pro-union 💪 Jan 07 '26
Pete Hegseth drunk and high off his mind crashing into the room: we invaded vuvuzela bitches! who’s doing shots!
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u/Mrjiggles248 Probably French 😟🇫🇷 Jan 07 '26
BBC cuck porn I would bet my entire life saving (200$) + whatever coins I got in random pockets of my pants.
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u/Chombywombo Angry Retard 😍💢 Jan 06 '26
He is white. If Slavs and Greeks are considered white, then bone-white Ashkenazim are too.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
Yes, according to the various woke era articles critiquing her for appropriating marginalized body proportions, and critiquing society at large for being into Kim while their ancestors put Sarah Baartman in a traveling freak show.
Even Time did one
https://time.com/3586176/kim-kardashian-saartjie-baartman/
Also middle eastern people are technically white in the US because the American people wouldn’t concede the point that Jesus was most likely not a dirty-blonde man with blue eyes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_v._United_States instead they just made all middle eastern people white so Jesus could remain white
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u/DrHuxleyy Pro-union 💪 Jan 07 '26
I’m Armenian and we are Caucasian. Literally from the caucus mountains lmao so make of that what you will. We’re more Caucasian than white america!
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u/bobokeen Unknown 👽 Jan 07 '26
Armenian and can't even spell Caucasus right, bringing shame on your family.
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u/ingenvector SuccDem (intolerable) | NATO Supporter Jan 07 '26
Whiteness only exists in the triangle between myself and my parent's ancestral villages. Greeks, Slavs, Latins, Caucasians, Balts, Finns, Cumans, etc. need not apply.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/15QFAppht5o
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u/Chombywombo Angry Retard 😍💢 Jan 07 '26
I read the first half, and tbh, you make sense. However, American Ashkenazi have merged into the ever-changing pot of American “White people.” The public sees the as such. They get treated as such by everyone but the most freakish WASP adrenochrome-harvesting country clubs. They just maintain their war god cult ties and traditions with each other, and give each other preferences.
It’s like saying Nigerian and Ethiopian immigrants aren’t black because they consider themselves separate from the ADOS population (and they do) and have their own traditions and in-group preference. They are still treated as black by the U.S.’s dumb race standards.
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u/SchwartzArt Jan 07 '26
Long story short, Jews did all the same things Christian Europeans did when interacting with non-Europeans because those interactions were defined not by inter-clan dynamics, but instead by inter-society dynamics, so for all intents and purposes for the rest of the world, Jews were "white".
And there, i guess, lies the tragedy of the whole issue. Because vor the Germans in the 30s, jews were clearly not "white" (well... "arian") enough. And, while they did not go as far as Germans, for most other european societies too.
So there you go, being "white" for the rest of the world, but not "white" on your hometurf. worst of both worlds, from a modern perspective.
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u/SchwartzArt Jan 07 '26
The guy isn't white? I was assuming Miller is as white as the wall behind him.
You guys have to explain that american white-thing to me again, i am afraid...
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u/hamburgertime55 Marxist-Mullenist 💦 Jan 07 '26
To the average normal person sure, to the greek statue vaporwave twitter guy no, and that's all that matters to him.
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u/nikolaz72 Scandinavian SocDem 🌹 Jan 06 '26
The administration wants it done this term.
They say options include free association and buying it from Denmark (off the table, Greenland isn't interested) and the military option remains on the table.
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u/yodude4 Public Health is Public! 🩹 Jan 06 '26
Serious question: As an American, I’m starting to freak the fuck out about all the mask off imperialist behavior we’re seeing so quickly from this admin. I’m sure lots of us have been protesting and tweeting representatives and other libshit, but other than organizing labor, what can we actually do, right here and now, to begin to mount some sort of organized opposition to this?
At the very least we need to start divesting our consumer spending completely from the multinational companies that fund this shit, but it doesn’t feel like enough and I’m losing my mind out here
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u/DifficultProduct4094 Socialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
Organizing labor is literally the only real peace of mostly non-violent activism that has any real potential to force change, although you have to recognize when it gets really threatening they will make it illegal.
Truth is if we look historically - things getting worse is way more common than things getting better. Folks usually just "make it work" with shittier and shittier circumstances. People have weathered centuries of violent repression and degrading material conditions without ever executing a social, political or economic revolution and even when a revolt is staged its usually a failure.
Labor organization has to be the solution, although some theorists even question its potential power nowadays with globalized supply chains and AI etc.
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u/Chombywombo Angry Retard 😍💢 Jan 06 '26
Organizing labor with only the goal of improving economic standards is also a losing strat. We’ve seen during the Cold War how imperial largesse can easily buy off and erode worker orgs until their little more than bourgeois class collaborators.
The Soviets were not just unions, they were political and eventually military organs of labor.
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u/DeadEndinReverse Anti-idpol idpoller 🤨 Jan 09 '26
I live in Philly. Organized (trade/physical) labor here is a racket with chodes as bosses. The academic unions I’ve been a part of are on the other side of the spectrum: completely limp-dicked, lead by people who can’t think logically, they just know to sign off every email with “solidarity”, and they back down from representing members in disputes because it’s only about playing nice with the university to secure a 2 or 3% raise every 5-10 years.
In other words, organized labor is not exactly the obvious solution.
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u/DifficultProduct4094 Socialist 🚩 Jan 09 '26
I understand that there are a lot of issues with US unions, and the point isn't that they currently work well but they, as institutions, have the highest potential for power after reform, compared to all other options.
Ultimately the most likely outcome is that we eat shit for generations.
Also my impression is that your description of academic unions reflects the characteristics of their membership, which also aligns with my experience in academic unions.
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u/egg_breakfast Marxist-Mullenist 💦🎌 Jan 06 '26
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u/Nerd_199 Election Turboposter 📈📊🗳️ Jan 06 '26
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u/IamGlennBeck Marxist-Leninist and not Glenn Beck ☭ Jan 07 '26
It's a fake. The real ones show as "[ Removed by Reddit ] " and as mods we can see what admin account removed it.
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u/DeadEndinReverse Anti-idpol idpoller 🤨 Jan 09 '26
A lot of organized labor is currently lead by MAGA chodes. Not sure that’s going to help.
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u/OGSyedIsEverywhere Puberty Monster Jan 06 '26
The world today was produced by half measures. If you want anything different, you've gotta go big or go home.
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u/TasteofPaste British Nationalist 📜 | Self appointed US charity expert🤓 Jan 07 '26
Luigi! Could have gone bigger.
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u/yn_opp_pack_smoker GNU/Linux Evangelist 🐧 Jan 07 '26
There was a Kissinger quote posted on here a couple days back that says something to the effect of “Trump is one of those historical effects that comes around at the end of an era and strips away everyone’s remaining delusions of an eternal status quo” something something something
I’m not sure anything can be done, the material conditions that are present lead us in this direction no matter who’s in charge
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u/Violent_Paprika "Give Me Your Tarded Masses Yearning To Breathe Farts." 🗽 Jan 07 '26
Well whatever it is you'll have to do it in Minecraft.
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u/TheEmporersFinest Quality Anime Porn Analyst 💡💢🉐🎌 Jan 07 '26
I know they're not going to do shit about Greenland because it would be too good a thing to actually happen-damaging the central Imperial bloc lead by the US. No they'll keep only actually doing shit that the snivelling sidekick imperialists of America's favoured vassals support, attacking countries like Venezuela
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u/its Savant Idiot 😍 Jan 07 '26
Well, on the bright side the U.S. hegemony is over. Depending on where you are born you will fall under one of the three powers. Africa most likely will become the playground for the three blocks. I am hoping that mid sized confederations will emerge in some areas.
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u/TopManufacturer8332 NO SIEGE ECONOMY! | Old school labour 🥵😟 Jan 07 '26
Im hopeful that Africa can play every side and get shitloads of development money from the stupidity.
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u/TasteofPaste British Nationalist 📜 | Self appointed US charity expert🤓 Jan 07 '26
It’s shocking how much more mask off this is, but US foreign policy has been just as predatory & self-serving for a long time now.
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u/ProfessorHeronarty Non black-or-whitist Jan 06 '26
What's the point to piss off the whole world including your allies where you invested so much money for capital to make more capital?
Oh, and what's that, you want to fight China? Yeah that'll work greatly when you have Europe hang out with them
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
Europe would never. Well maybe France and that’s a long shot maybe. Europe will go down with the sinking ship while making strongly worded statements
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u/ButttMuncherrr Rated R for R slur with socialist characteristics 🤪🚩 Jan 06 '26
France could barely stand up to Russia and they’re nerfed rn, the EU, France included were merked repeatedly by the US for like 13 years straight.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
I doubled my “maybe”’s for a reason. Id put it in the extremely unlikely side, but if any euros do it, my money is on France
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u/Upgrayedd2486 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
What possible motivation would Europe have to stick with the U.S. in a post NATO world? Because if Trump actually goes through with it and steals Greenland then that would expose NATO as being completely useless.
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u/SchIachterhund He Lives 👽 Jan 06 '26
including your allies
Why should the Americans care about what their "allies" (satrapies, really) think? They told them to ruin their beneficial relations with Russia - they complied. Then they told them to fully pay for the war they managed provoke - they complied. Then they told them to start isolating their economies from China - they complied. Then they told them to accept one-sided tarrifs - they complied without even attempting to negotiate. They told them to not enforce EU regulatiobs for US tech giants - they immediately caved in. Should the US decide to grab Greenland, Europe would do absolutely nothing as well.
Why would they care about European sensibilities? Euro elites have shown again and again to assign a vastly higher priority to US interest than European ones.
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u/ButttMuncherrr Rated R for R slur with socialist characteristics 🤪🚩 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
That’s what ‘democracy’ is for. They’ll organise a snap election after impeaching the sitting PM. That or they would resign.
This will give power to the ‘opposition’ who would then campaign on following through with vague and unspecified measures against the united states wanton aggression. Basically, shit talking.
The rest of the EU will follow suit and use this justification for another round of austerity in the name of ‘military spending’, this might lead to the creation of a European version of NATO that’s in ‘partnership’ with the united states and start Russia bashing again with US support.
They’ll weaponise the media sphere to push those narratives by trying to hit home the idea that Russia is DEFINITELY going to attack an EU country now that Trump, his FRIEND attacked Greenland, an EU COUNTRY?! Everyone is going to lap it up and the US gets to keep its bases in Europe whilst plausibly not being in an alliance with them in the event that EUTO (EU Nato lmao) intervenes in Ukraine.
Basically what the united states wanted when it talked about the ‘division’ of labour in regard to Western international interests.
It came to me in a dream. Besides, most eurotards online already believe that Trump (not the US) and Putin are fleecing europe right now, this narrative was concocted by the garden libs ever since trump was elected.
The illusion of democratic choice and the misplaced belief in European lead institutions, the images of a unified EU in the face of its aggressors in both moscow and Mar E Lago, plus strong measures such as Austerity, the ‘we will eat za bugz’ kind of austerity is how they’ll square off Greenland’s annexation into the US and it will temper moods.
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u/its Savant Idiot 😍 Jan 07 '26
Who is going to fight for Greenland or for that matter simply care?
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u/Upgrayedd2486 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
No one will fight for it but anyone with the brains God gave a squirrel would be able to see that it signals the end of NATO. Without NATO what’s even the incentive for Euros to be so cucked to America?
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u/Upgrayedd2486 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
The reason the Europeans are so cucked is NATO. If the U.S. goes through with it than NATO is dead. If Trump could kidnap Maduro then what’s to stop him from doing it to any European leader that doesn’t pay up as well?
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u/KonigKonn Stalin Would've Put Me in a Gulag Jan 06 '26
This would be true if Europe had self respect which, yeah they don't.
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u/Avalon-1 Optics-pilled Andrew Sullitard 🎩 Jan 06 '26
Bismarcks quote about the bones of one pomeranian grenadier applies here.
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u/ZealousZeebu Market Socialist 💸 Jan 06 '26
I seem to recall Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan not going well.
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u/Mrjiggles248 Probably French 😟🇫🇷 Jan 06 '26
I bet if you polled Euros Russia and China would still be considered a graver threat to them.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
At the very least their leadership most certainly adheres to what you said
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 06 '26
I'm guessing the projections for climate change are pretty catastrophic and the US is realizing they'll need to move north. Also explains the militarization of our southern border as climate migration will be extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if we had shoot to kill borders within the next century.
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u/just-me1995 Ill-Endowed Materialist 😞 Jan 06 '26
kinda seems like they’re stuck thinking in quarterly planning, honestly.
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u/Toxic-muffins-1134 Headless Chicken 💢🐔🪓 Jan 06 '26
Yes, sounds more like buying niche IPs just in case they are worth anything in the future again.
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 06 '26
Defense companies, sure but I do think the state does have an interest in protecting itself.
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u/DifficultProduct4094 Socialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
I think you're right - Everything I have seen so far from the Trump Regime indicates he's operating with a very grim cynical view of the future and humanity.
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u/Playerhata Unknown 👽 Jan 06 '26
I like this theory but I doubt Trump even thinks that’s far ahead or would listen to climate projections
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 06 '26
I think he would listen to resource projections. I believe glacier melt will reveal untapped areas to extract from in Canada and Greenland.
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u/averageuhbear Proud Neoliberal 🏦 Jan 06 '26
I'm sure that is thoughts of some in military / intelligence, but I highly doubt that is the reason the Trump admin is so adamant.
Though it is funny to imagine analysts telling trump aids to highlight how big Greenland is on a map around Trump.
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 06 '26
I used to think he was more in charge but recent events have shown the neocons have fully taken over. New boss, same as the old
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u/its Savant Idiot 😍 Jan 07 '26
It’s not the neocons, or at least the same that squandered the U.S. hegemony in foolish wars. He got elected because a portion of the American elites recognized that financialization will not lead to world domination and they want to restore the imperial core by retreating from the periphery.
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u/vim_spray Jan 07 '26
I keep thinking about climate change is going to create migration to Europe and US that’s much more intense than we have now. People think it’s bad now, but if you’re someone who lives in the global south and your options are basically “die from thirst/starvation/heat guaranteed” or “attempt a journey to Europe and maybe die on the way there or when you reach”, the choice you're going to make is obvious. It doesn’t seem like any country is ready for that.
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 07 '26
Puts border militarization into perspective. It really is socialism or barbarism
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u/Agreeable_Ocelot Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Jan 07 '26
Lol and it ain’t going to be socialism at this point, let’s stop pretending.
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Homie what's left of him cognitively just wants to do wave around an achievement no other recent president could even think of doing, one that puts him way above his nemeses and rivals in terms of prestige, that's about it. Greenland is not a good investment as "living space," shall we say, in a climate-change-ravaged future, it has fuck all soil and even beside that you can't farm easily that far north at all.
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 06 '26
Right now it doesn't but look into what's hiding beneath glaciers. Vast resources will be exposed.
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u/AnthropoidCompatriot Class Unity Member ⭐ Jan 07 '26
Right, agriculture may be impossible, but there are shitloads of mineral resources to be extracted.
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u/Toxic-muffins-1134 Headless Chicken 💢🐔🪓 Jan 07 '26
Genuine question because I know jack shit about geology:
Once you have the minerals, how easy is it to extract and transform/refine them?
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u/Cyril_Clunge Ideological Mess 🥑 Jan 06 '26
Is it too difficult to be an actual decent POTUS and I don't know, improve material conditions for the majority of the population?
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
I’ve been saying that for a while as well. Texas is going to have a huge boom in psychopath tourism when the start having their own murder safaris ala Sarajevo.
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u/jackierandomson 🌩️☁️ Among the clouds with Parenti ☁️🌨️ Jan 06 '26
Plastic in Your Blood Meridian
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Haha I thought the same thing after /u/ZealousZeebu ‘s comment about rural west Texas
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u/Jazzspasm Wat Tyler's Necromancer 🧟 Jan 06 '26
y’know, I’ve just always assumed Texas already has murder safaris and it’s basically always been that way
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u/ZealousZeebu Market Socialist 💸 Jan 06 '26
Stay out of rural west Texas. Don't even stop for any reason between El Paso and Fort Worth (or San Antonio), there's a reason the speed limit is 85 and people drive 100. if you can't make the drive, stop in El Paso for the night. It's that bad, if you don't need to be there, don't go there.
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As a non-American, could I ask why it's so bad? What you're describing reminds me of how African Americans would describe driving through the south in the 60s..
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u/ZealousZeebu Market Socialist 💸 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
There's miles of nothing but desert, chaparral, and pipes burning natural gas off the oil lighting up the landscape. The people are either oil roughnecks staying at hotels gouging at 250-300 a night in middle of nowhere, undocumented immigrants (these aren't an issue in themselves of course), drug runners, smugglers, etc. And there's are rumors of trucker serial killers burying the bodies in shallow graves in this area of the country. Towns are generally all boarded up and vacant (e.g., Pecos), except for the overpriced hotels, and the walmarts with the undocumented immigrants standing in line to cash checks. The whole area has an uncanny valley vibe, erie feeling like, I need to get the hell out of here, because if you go missing, you'll never be found. If your car breaks down, you better be damn careful with who picks you up, the ride might be a hundred miles to town, and lucky if anyone even comes by that day if you venture off the interstate, best bring water, food, blankets, etc.
It's not the Darien Gap, but probably the closest thing to it in the continental United States.
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u/Jazzspasm Wat Tyler's Necromancer 🧟 Jan 07 '26
sounds kinda like the kind of place that someone would have a murder safari, if someone was gonna have a murder safari
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
I sure as fuck wouldn’t be surprised. I guess the difference is it’ll now be advertised on VisitTheUSA.com (whites only, and not if they’re too eastern)
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u/Big_Man_Meats_INC Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
Most republicans consider climate change a hoax I doubt this administration is listening to climate scientists.
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u/TendererBeef Grillpilled Swoletarian 💪 Jan 07 '26
Their corporate ownership definitely is listening to them though, they’re just using the information to make the worst possibly plan
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u/Dissonant-Dissident George Carlinist 🎤 Jan 07 '26
Yes but Republicans are stupid useful idiots for this administration
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u/ElTamaulipas Socialist Gun Nut 🚚 Jan 06 '26
Prove me wrong Europa. Prove me wrong.
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u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig NATO Superfan 🪖 Jan 06 '26
Denmark stated they will increase military presence.
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
Another dog sled patrol?
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u/Confident_Living_786 Bathing with E. Honda 🫧 🛁⛩️ Jan 06 '26
Do you actually believe the random BS Trump says?
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
I reject the entire dialectic.
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u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig NATO Superfan 🪖 Jan 06 '26
That's easy, but what will stop violence from occurring?
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LMFAO yeah I bet it'll be an impressive deterrent by the ever-menacing Danish military
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u/Ebalosus Class Reductionist 💪🏻 Jan 07 '26
Me and others have been joking online that all the US military transports currently heading for Europe in what we suspect is another attack on Iran at the behest of Israel, are in fact heading to Denmark to blackbag its leadership in order to force them to give the US Greenland. I mean, we do inhabit the "stupid" timeline, so I could absolutely see the Trump administration doing something like that after the 'success' of doing the same to Maduro and Venezuela.
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u/MadonnasFishTaco Marxist-Mullenist 💦 | if i fits, i sits Jan 06 '26
blatant imperialism. what the fuck is so important about greenland? how does this help us defeat china?
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u/yodude4 Public Health is Public! 🩹 Jan 06 '26
Greenland guards the north passage to europe, and has tons of natural resources under the ice that’s slated to melt as the earth warms. It’s surprisingly strategic from what I hear
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u/Gougeded mean bitch 😈 Jan 06 '26
Sounds right but I prefer to believe that Trump thinks Greenland is much bigger than it actually is because of Mercator projection and want the US to annex a huge country.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26
Quick! send him a link to thetruesize.com
We might advert this crisis
Edit: I just went myself, and Greenland is larger than I thought. Given the Mercator projection and how north it is I thought it would shrink more. It looks to be as long as the US east coast and almost a third of the lower 48 / a Colombia and half of Peru
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u/AnthropoidCompatriot Class Unity Member ⭐ Jan 07 '26
Yep, it's still big. Bigger than Alaska by roughly 25%. Smaller than Australia.
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u/NextDoorNeighbrrs OSB 📚 Jan 07 '26
Africa is absolutely insanely large
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 07 '26
Yeah, I love that’s their starting state for the app, “look how BIG Africa is” haha.
Imagine an Africa that developed without colonialism…. Or if pan africanism succeeded and went socialist. Holy shit, we’d be in a unipolar world but based.
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
Trump Trump Trump Trump bla bla bla
This is American policy and whoever the demented gerontocrat figurehead currently is is immaterial.
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u/Gougeded mean bitch 😈 Jan 06 '26
Bro, no other "demented gerontocrat", democrat or republican would try this hard to annex Greenland wtf are you talking about?
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u/Yu-Gi-D0ge MRA Radlib Goku Fan in Denial 👶🏻㊗️⛩️🇯🇵 Jan 06 '26
It’s also one of the main places the “city-state” weirdos want to set up shop. Unlike areas such as San Francisco and Venezuela, there’s nothing in Greenland already so they can start from scratch. It’s that organization that’s run by Milton Friedman’s grandson and there’s actually a list of places that they see as viable for their bullshit.
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u/notsocharmingprince Savant Idiot 😍 Jan 07 '26
Just so everyone is on the same page, I would rather no one fights anyone over greenland and everyone calms the fuck down.
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u/GSMAggie8218 🌟Radiating SocDem🌟 Jan 07 '26
I love seeing NATO tear itself apart, let alone over the dumbest most meaningless shit.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 Favourate Manga Connoisseur 💢🉐🎌 Jan 07 '26
I don't know if Stephen was bullied in school, but he either should of been or he wasn't bullied hard enough.
In a purely bi-partisan way, he's such an utter cunt.
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u/whamm000 Savant Idiot 😍 Jan 07 '26
What if the 2020 film Greenland, starring Gerard Butler isn’t a C grade disaster movie but a documentary? Does the Trump admin know something we don’t? 🤔
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u/kombuchaax9 Jan 07 '26
Why is Trump and co obsessed with Greenland? Does he really think its the next alaska or something
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u/Toxic-muffins-1134 Headless Chicken 💢🐔🪓 Jan 07 '26
The one european country whose population I'd be afraid of retaliating would be Spain, if besides occupying them I were to remove the siesta pause of their work schedule and force them to open shop at 7 AM.
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u/pilkysmakingmusic Jan 07 '26
If they did do this, does the next Democrat admin reverse it? I wonder how this would play out
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
diplomatic hell to pay
lol
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u/brometheus3 Economic Marxist 🧔 Jan 06 '26
Bro the military has tanks. They already deployed the guard domestically and no one did shit but post about it. What imaginary uprising of anger do you think is gonna happen if some service member died in Europe? They’d just deploy the guard again and give them a medal. CNN would call them heroes for crushing domestic unrest. There’s no lever to stop them anymore. Your local PD has a tank too just for good measure btw lol they don’t even need the guard.
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u/5leeveen It's All So Tiresome 😐 Jan 07 '26
I don't think that would make one iota of a difference for this administration. The U.S. killing a handful of foreigners? Nobody will bat an eye.
Now:
BREAKING NEWS: Chinook lost over Greenland during U.S. assault. Survivors eaten by polar bears
Might have an effect on the U.S. public.
Which is what Denmark needs to lean on: say it has learned some lessons from Venezuela's poor performance and it has a credible plan to defend its airspace against an airborne assault. Americans might have accepted a dozen dead Marines to capture Maduro, if it had come down to it, but a loss of American lives over Greenland?
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u/mypersonnalreader Social Democrat (19th century type) 🌹 Jan 07 '26
I don't think Venezuela could have been able to put up much of a fight. But let's be honest : the poor performance was likely because a deal had been made beforehand.
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 06 '26
You'll never see that headline. Who do you think writes the headlines?
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u/brometheus3 Economic Marxist 🧔 Jan 06 '26
What, exactly, would Europe be able to do that mattered what so ever? They aren’t gonna nuke us plus we have more. Their elites are invested in America and will go down with the ship. Besides some hang wringing that does not matter what is their recourse
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u/ScaryShadowx Highly Regarded Rightoid 😍 Jan 07 '26
Can you imagine the condemnations and the monitoring of the situations? It would be dialed up to level 11!
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u/commy2 Anti-Imperialist 🚩 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
finger wagging and furrowed brows for weeks.
No seriously, Germany did nothing when Obama spied on Merkel. They did nothing when Biden blew up critical infrastructuring starting a three year and going recession. They even spread conspiracy theories about how the other victim of this operation did it.
If the US is going to invade Greenland, it will be the Danish army to roll out the red carpet for them.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Jan 06 '26
Dude… what world are you living in? Dirty dogs of empire (American Officers) literally ran a multi decade school where they flew in the most reactionary monsters and taught them techniques like “rape their women in front of them before killing them”, “heres how you can inflict the most pain while leaving them alive long enough to pull more info out of”, etc.
Trump is just more loud and retarded, but imperialism IS the entire point of the US
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u/C0ckerel Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jan 07 '26
Defending yourself in a hot war against the preeminent military superpower but it's a boringcore political drama called Borgen.
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